Imagine if they made the "Rushdie Code"

**Brenus** · 05-20-2006, 09:34

As you said: “In the words of the Catholic Encyclopedia”. Hardly an independent body, is it?

My understanding is the text was “wholly fabricated and arbitrarily inserted”. Why Flavius would speak about a obscure preacher, who got the most dishonourable death you can imagine in the Roman world, officially the death to the rebel against Rome, him as a former rebel but now in the way to become a recognised member of the roman society? That should be a death wish under Nero. All this entire work was made to show he is a good Roman Citizen and in the middle of a text, without any link with the rest of the text, in an absolute distinctive style, in he inserted this paragraph… No way. It is a medieval cut and past exercice.

**Xiahou** · 05-20-2006, 10:37

Originally Posted by Brenus

As you said: “In the words of the Catholic Encyclopedia”. Hardly an independent body, is it?

You've confused me there... the Encylopedia notes that the passage has suffered from numerous interpolations- Im puzzled on why you seem to be attacking that as biased. The survey mentioned has nothing to do with the Catholic Encyclopedia

My understanding is the text was “wholly fabricated and arbitrarily inserted”. Why Flavius would speak about a obscure preacher, who got the most dishonourable death you can imagine in the Roman world, officially the death to the rebel against Rome, him as a former rebel but now in the way to become a recognised member of the roman society? That should be a death wish under Nero. All this entire work was made to show he is a good Roman Citizen and in the middle of a text, without any link with the rest of the text, in an absolute distinctive style, in he inserted this paragraph… No way. It is a medieval cut and past exercice.

Let's go back to the well again shall we?

The ragged structure of Antiquities involves frequent disruptions to the narrative, not least because it was mainly composed by a number of scribal assistants. Linguistic analysis has not proven conclusive when compared with other passages in Josephus which likewise exhibit unusual features. The supposed confession of Josephus relies on the standard text. But a recent study by Alice Whealey has demonstrated that a variant Greek text of this sentence existed in the 5th century—"He was believed to be the Christ." The standard text, then, has simply become corrupt by the loss of the main verb and a subsequent scribal "correction" of the prolative infinitive. In any event, the audience for the work was Roman, and the Romans always referred to Jesus as "Christus", which would make this merely an identification. Finally, it has been pointed out that every line of the passage can be objected to, or supported, by one argument or another.

You're free to think what you want on the passage's authenticity, but dont claim your view is the one widely accepted by historians without evidence.

**Strike For The South** · 05-20-2006, 18:51

I saw the movie. It was meh. There were to many French people. Tom Hanks' hair was bad. English people are silly and and albinos are insane. Thats what I took away from the movie. 6/10 Oh and I now know how to curse in French

**Strike For The South** · 05-20-2006, 18:50

I saw the movie. It was meh. There were to many French people. Tom Hanks' hair was bad. English people are silly and and albinos are insane. Thats what I took away from the movie. 6/10 Oh and I now know how to curse in French

**Strike For The South** · 05-20-2006, 18:51

I saw the movie. It was meh. There were to many French people. Tom Hanks' hair was bad. English people are silly and and albinos are insane. Thats what I took away from the movie. 6/10 Oh and I now know how to curse in French

**Ronin** · 05-20-2006, 18:57

if someone made the "rushdie code"....that would mean that:

-there would be 1 more book/movie I´d have no interest in reading/seeing

...I think I could live with that.

**Brenus** · 05-20-2006, 20:07

“but dont claim your view is the one widely accepted by historians without evidence.”I never did. However, it is not true, to my knowledge that it is widely accepted y historians. In fact, historians ay that most of Joseph Flavius, even the real one, written by him, are exaggerations and even some lies.

“There were too many French people.” Oops, sorry, you just realised that France is populated by French….

**Major Robert Dump** · 05-20-2006, 23:37

I would see the movie, Dave, I might even take a date and make out in the front row and squirt mayonasse packets on the people behind me. But I don't think hollywood would have a warm reception for it, it would have to be independent which means it would likely not be carried at many movie houses, not even Paul Newmans (speaking of mayo!)