A disturbing insight into the American Police State
The following video is a rather disturbing insight into what is rapidly becoming a fascist police state. I won't say anymore, and just link you to the video. Truly horrific, especially when the US goes preaching democracy and boohoo's about the lack of democracy and free protests in other countries only to allow this.
http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/1...Chilling_Video
Originally Posted by Ranika
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"You are free....to do as we tell you"
"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
-Josh Homme
"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"
- Calvin
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I cancelled it when I saw the Swaztika after 2 seconds running time. I think a whale just swam into your propaganda-detector, get it out, these poor mammals are endangered.
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I won't watch that Trash..
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I watched about half of it, and I'll watch the other half when I get home. I have things to say about our "Police State" also.
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Oh please. This is the lamest thing ever. She gets really angry about cops videotaping protestors, and now, apparently, pepper is a chemical weapon. She also sounds like she's high.
There's lots of stuff that can get you angry about the police inthis country -no knock raids, getting arrested for asking directions, real police torture, etc., but this isn't it.
A facist police state? Because police are videotaping protestors? Give me a break. Horrific? Are you not from England, which contains the most videotaped subjects in the world?
For a reality check into your pathetic "America is a facist police state" fantasy, check out videos of North Korean riot police. Or at least use plausible examples (hint, google Ruby Ridge and Waco).
Crazed Rabbit
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Oh please....the UK is going to be a police state before the USA, Hell they already disarmed you guys! you are video taped more the any other country, for crying out loud....and you call us a police state
edit just saw the last 2 post start the same lol
Formerly ceasar010
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But Waco happened during the Clinton Administration, the pinnacle of Democracy in America! (not to mention all the scandals, murders, ignoring terrorists, et cetera)
By the way, to answer her quesetion, if this were Nazi Germany, they'd be in Auschwitz by now. Last I checked, we had no concentration camps. Owned.
Last edited by Kaiser of Arabia; 05-20-2006 at 17:41.
Why do you hate Freedom?
The US is marching backward to the values of Michael Stivic.
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Actually I always found that interesting...what is the deal with Ruby Ridge and Waco?...from what I have read about both situations the law was being broken in both cases, and in both cases the police officers were received with gunfire when they tried to stop an ilegal situation.
As far as I´m concerned if you receive a police officer doing his job by shooting at him that police officer has every right do respond with full deadly force.
yet somehow I always see the people that were breaking the law as Ruby Ridge and Waco being talked about as almost heroes ....but the same people that talk this way about these criminals seem to have no problem with ramdom arrests against people that are doing nothing more than demonstrating on the street...
that just...does not compute....It´s something I consider just weird.....anyone can clarify?
"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
-Josh Homme
"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"
- Calvin
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They have riots in North Korea?
I'd say that every state, to some extent, is a 'Police State', it comes with the territory. It just depends how much policing you are willing to put up with in order to combat crime, terrorism, anti-social behaviour, etc.
Dum spiro spero
A great many people think they are thinking when they are really rearranging their prejudices.
- William James
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They wish to publicly protest government policy.... but they don't want anybody to know that they actually are at these rallies.
And yes, cameras only show a part of the story.
Fascist police state? I hardly think so.
I supose an Englishman knows more about my country than I do myself.
Last edited by makkyo; 05-20-2006 at 18:12.
"And one should bear in mind that there is nothing more difficult to execute, nor more dubious of success, nor more dangerous to administer than to introduce a new order to things; for he who introduces it has all those who profit from the old order as his enemies; and he has only lukewarm allies in all those who might profit from the new. This lukewarmness partly stems from fear of their adversaries, who have the law on their side, and partly from the skepticism of men, who do not truly believe in new things unless they have personal experience in them."
~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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If ever jesus shows up for that second comming thing he'll be gunned down pretty quick...
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Had to stop watching after a while... that kind of voice really really gets on my nerves. The whinging self-righteousness of it is sickening. That, and an American voice is more likely than not to irritate me intensely.
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The police acted with flagrant disregard for the lives of children and other innocents, and for the laws of the united states.Actually I always found that interesting...what is the deal with Ruby Ridge and Waco?...from what I have read about both situations the law was being broken in both cases, and in both cases the police officers were received with gunfire when they tried to stop an ilegal situation.
As far as I´m concerned if you receive a police officer doing his job by shooting at him that police officer has every right do respond with full deadly force.
yet somehow I always see the people that were breaking the law as Ruby Ridge and Waco being talked about as almost heroes ....but the same people that talk this way about these criminals seem to have no problem with ramdom arrests against people that are doing nothing more than demonstrating on the street...
that just...does not compute....It´s something I consider just weird.....anyone can clarify?
The man whom the ATF put under siege at Ruby Ridge was later found not guilty of any law breaking, but not before the ATF shot his dog, his son in the back, and his wife as she held their baby. They also taunted him after killing his wife. Why? For an alledgedly unpaid $200 tax. Go here for more info.
At Waco, the ATF attacked a large house holding members of a cult who had done nothing wrong, just to show off when they could have picked up the man they were after on the street. They had a bunch of bogus charges about child abuse, how they needed to protect the children, etc.
So, of course, they had tanks attack and destroy the house after setting it on fire, shooting those who ran out.
Good way to protect the children, huh?
Both linked sites are baised, but they don't need to lie to show the evil of the government.
EDIT: The irony of the original video is that the narrator is probably anti-gun.
Crazed Rabbit
Last edited by Crazed Rabbit; 05-20-2006 at 18:33.
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Turned the video off 3/4 the way through. It was getting pretty old with the same old drivel. Anyone who takes this seriously needs to get their head examined. Hmm where to start. First off, the lady constantly asks why are they filiming us. She then decides it must be so they police can later arrest and keeps tabs on the protestors. BUT HMMM, could it just be that they want to have video evidence later in case someone breaks the law? Do you honestly think they would make the videos public if it were for that kind of use? How do you think the lady obtained this footage. She would have had to have got it from the police. After all, it was them, not the protestors that filmed this. I also enjoy how they try to show the police as facists when in fact all it does it make the protestors look like jackasses. The police are not doing anything most of the time. Just standing around making sure things don't get out of hand. You have your typical hippie, pot head who looks like they need a good shave and bath yelling insults at the cops while flipping them their middle finger. That doesn't seem real peaceful does it. AND oh please, pepper spraying babies? This complete and utter total crap. Here is an idea, if you dislike the war so much, why don't you write petitions to your respresenative to try to change it. Hey, after all, isn't that what democracy is all about? Finally, if this was a police state, they wouldn't have the write to protest at all. The police would simply start beating them with night sticks or firing into the crowd.
Please though, please post more utter and total nonsense because it appears you cannot look any deeper then the surface propoganda.
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Conspiracy theorists. They really should get their facts straight ... Hitler and Germany were National Socialist, not Fascist, Italy was Fascist.
And hiding your face during a public protest is mighty suspicious ... after all, you might be aiming to cause trouble. Secondly, we're talking mob mentality here, they have to keep an eye out for leaders, in case they actually get the mob moving.
Keep in mind, I don't even like the US. While I have many objections, this would not be one of them. Do not always blame the actions of a few on many, after all, they may just be the actions of a few.
Oh, and as far as Fascist police states go, they really need to get to Europe, and ask a couple of people who were around at the time, civilians, not soldiers. You get a pretty good image of what that was like. The stuff on video, it's like summer camp, not Fascism.
Says at the end the footage was gotten without police consent. That would be a violation of law, wouldn't it?
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And I thought I was kinky
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Yes. I didnt watch the end, so I just assumed. That's even better. She broke the law to obtain that video. Yes!
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does my profile still say "hippy punisher"? oh right.
we want a police state. when do we want it? NOW
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-Eric "George Orwell" Blair
"If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
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lol. I won't even consider taking this seriously. Just listen to the girl's voice ffs!Couldn't even get past the first quarter of it. Silly lass.
When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman? From the beginning all men by nature were created alike, and our bondage or servitude came in by the unjust oppression of naughty men. For if God would have had any bondsmen from the beginning, he would have appointed who should be bound, and who free. And therefore I exhort you to consider that now the time is come, appointed to us by God, in which ye may (if ye will) cast off the yoke of bondage, and recover liberty. - John Ball
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Too wierd!
Makes me sort of mad...
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I just have to laugh at how she said "they're gonna hit them with sticks" over and over.
Funny movie. I want to join the police now.
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A few semi-valid points hidden in a real mess of random Yippie anger. The guy getting suddenly pulled to the ground near the beginning was a little alarming. Frankly, though, I am not shocked or appalled at the police videotaping people. Hell, they've been doing it for years in police cruisers to help enforce traffic laws.
And the narrator is very stoned. Trust me, I know. And I don't mean half-baked, either; that woman is FUBAR. Your voice does not sound like that unless you are completely and genuinely ***** up.
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Last edited by Beirut; 05-21-2006 at 04:34.
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Financed by Michael Moore (he cried for hours when he lost his donuts for a week to pay for it though).
Azi
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There's a certain kind of vegan, hemp-wearing, dope-smoking, permanently-protesting person who will always cry "fascist!" at the mildest use of force. I love how the pepper balls are "chemical weapons."
Didn't this little hippie chick know that anytime you bring the nazis into an argument, it's already over?
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The man whom the ATF put under siege at Ruby Ridge was later found not guilty of any law breaking,
Errr....thats not true is it Rabbit .
Why? For an alledgedly unpaid $200 tax.
Errrr....thats not true either is it .
Don't worry though , I understand , it's a gun thing , right .
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More of a "Pathological Right-Winger Yankee Fedophobia" thing IMO, but then I'm pretty cynical.
Although by what I've read of the glorious history of American law enforcement, I can sort of see why the phrase "the police is your friend" instills heavy scepticism over there.
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If the United States was a fascist nation those people would already be dead, and we'd all be better off because of it.
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We have made it clear in the past and I will repeat it now:If the United States was a fascist nation those people would already be dead, and we'd all be better off because of it.
This kind of rubbish is not acceptable on this forum.
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One thing that kind of annoys me about this sort of thing is the blatant and tendentious misuse of the term "fascism". That was historically a fairly specific form of populist-totalitarian governement and reactionary ideology, and casually using it as a blunt-instrument slogan is not only distasteful and outright lame but also dilutes the significance of the concept.
But then, I've noticed Americans seem to often manage to come across as idiots even when they're on a basically good cause. Just how many other countries are there where nature activists engage in honest-to-God terrorism anyway...?
I blame the fundamentally bipolar take on moral issues that seems to be embedded in the culture, personally.
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
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