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    Default What do you think is the best type of Market?

    Mixed market with limited government is the best. I'm just bored and want to see what everyone else thinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    Mixed market with limited government is the best. I'm just bored and want to see what everyone else thinks.
    Same.
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    Default Re: What do you think is the best type of Market?

    Boston Market.

    As little government interference as can be reasonably tolerated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    Boston Market.

    As little government interference as can be reasonably tolerated.
    Although off the topic, I must say, Boston Market is suprisingly insanly good, which I really didnt expect.
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    Mixed market, much intervention. So long as it is directed for the good of the individuals at large.

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    Goverment Controlled Market..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88
    Goverment Controlled Market..
    You do realize that is a command economy where private ownership is eliminated and everything is state run, correct? Why would you want that.



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    Black market just make every thing illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiji
    Although off the topic, I must say, Boston Market is suprisingly insanly good, which I really didnt expect.
    You should try their Spa.... er... I mean Ham.

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    There must be control over the market, otherwise ugly tricks and dangerous product producers might end up making most money and beat the more ethical alternatives which makes for bad products and no guarantee of service for customers. It's also important to have a government that can enforce other consumer safety principles such as money back for scam, safety against forged bills etc. Finally there are some products which must be available to all whether it's cheap or not to produce them, such as the most basic medicine, the most basic food products and clothes, so there must be government involvement to make sure the demands for such products are met, plus the government should ideally have reserve supply capabilities of food and water to make sure that doesn't end up in the hands of undemocratic companies, but it should also be allowed for companies to supply food too, to have a safety against if the government goes corrupt. Heavy and light are very subjective words, but I assume light control means what I just wrote above.
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    Mixed market with little government intervention. Free market scenarios as well as socialist utopias are impossible to achieve, only mixed systems work.

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    Italian Market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    You do realize that is a command economy where private ownership is eliminated and everything is state run, correct? Why would you want that.
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    As with Legio, I'm wondering about how much goverment control you refer to with light and heavy.

    Voted heavy, as I'm assuming that my preference of the goverment having some basic rules and to have considerble control of vital infrastructure, while the rest is free within those basic rules, is heavier than what many here consider light.

    The goverment can still have much more control of the market while still not having full control and thus making it a goverment controlled market.
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    Fruit and Veg. market.

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    There's a nice antiques market in Abernyte. I bought an Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders bugle from there...
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    Default Re: What do you think is the best type of Market?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    You do realize that is a command economy where private ownership is eliminated and everything is state run, correct? Why would you want that.
    In an ideal socialist society, there wouldn't be a monolith central government, but all infrastructure divided into quasi autonomous institutions. A system with private corporations aren't a good thing directly in their own right, but only because we know that they mantain the general level of wealth in society, and I don't think the former could.
    In short: I would embrace socialism if I thought it could work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec
    In an ideal socialist society, there wouldn't be a monolith central government, but all infrastructure divided into quasi autonomous institutions. A system with private corporations aren't a good thing directly in their own right, but only because we know that they mantain the general level of wealth in society, and I don't think the former could.
    In short: I would embrace socialism if I thought it could work.
    Yes and in my magical kingdom fairies fly free and little elves build toys for kids. Let's attempt to keep this realistic and not a "what if".



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    Default Re: What do you think is the best type of Market?

    Your original post seemed to indicate you'd oppose socialism even if it could work. Aren't we being a weee bit touchy here?

    It's your thread, have fun.

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    Supermarkets suck. Local stores and open-air markets are much nicer.

    ...what ?

    I voted "heavy intervention" - although I'd *really* like to see some defitions as to what constitutes "light" and "heavy" intervention in the context, too. I tend to trust the private-sector buggers way less than the bureaucrats. The latter may be dry, boring and have alarming control-freak tendencies, but at least their underlying professional ethos isn't derived from straight greed.

    Plus they can't raid the piggy bank and disappear to the Bahamas nearly as easy as the enterpreneurs, when it comes down to that...
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    Government intervention/control ONLY in areas with high barriers to entry, or in the unlikely event that one company gains to much power in a normal industry. I would qualify that as 'light'


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    Watchman - you think bureaucrats aren't greedy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    Yes and in my magical kingdom fairies fly free and little elves build toys for kids. Let's attempt to keep this realistic and not a "what if".
    I think I sense a little anger there Ice well if it is then this is gonna piss you off.










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    Lol, sorry to everyone. I was pissed off when I wrote that due to immense amount of work/stress I had today.

    I still think its a crappy idea though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    Watchman - you think bureaucrats aren't greedy?
    Not in the "rip you off and sell you shit" sense, no. Their equivalent works in a fair bit different way, but since they work for the State they're reasonably easy to keep in check if the other parts are doing their jobs right.

    'Course, that's assuming proper bureaucrats. Not the greedy corrupt kind, who are just profiteers and parasites anyway. Although to my knowledge even corrupt bureaucrats are way better than none at all...
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    Since we have a few literal replies check this one out: Seventh-Kilometer Market

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    I guess bureaucracy just works better in Finland, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    I guess bureaucracy just works better in Finland, then.
    Us Scandinavian countries are well-known for minimal adminstrational corruption and high competence.

    Bureaucratic ethos and professional moral are important. If those are lacking the system will start rotting pretty fast (although this is really one of those Chicken And Egg things...).
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    Bureaucracy also occurs in big business. Anyone who has to deal regularly with the big IT companies will realise that they are just as bureaucratic and inefficient as the local councils.
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    And that bureaucracy is geared for making a profit, not keeping a society working properly.
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