The Will of the Senate - Senate Deliberations

**TinCow** · 06-15-2006, 12:08

Originally Posted by SwordsMaster

Note to the librarian: Please update the text proposed in the voting poll with these motions

[Senate Librarian]
Senator, most humble apologies, but I do not have control of the voting procedures. I believe that only the Senate Speaker has the power to do what you ask. I would like to observe, however, that it may be too late for such a change. Much voting has already occurred based on the original text and changing the motion after votes have been cast would be a legally questionable action.

**SwordsMaster** · 06-15-2006, 12:13

Originally Posted by TinCow

[Senate Librarian]
Senator, most humble apologies, but I do not have control of the voting procedures. I believe that only the Senate Speaker has the power to do what you ask. I would like to observe, however, that it may be too late for such a change. Much voting has already occurred based on the original text and changing the motion after votes have been cast would be a legally questionable action.

I certainly accept your apologies, and although I do understand the problem you are referring to, I also wish to point out, that my failure to rephrase and refine my proposal is only due to unavoidable time constraints (OOC: Real Life, and internet access time). So I would like to suggest slightly more ample time is given when modifications of motions are proposed.

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 06-15-2006, 12:17

I'll second that request.

OOC : As the empire grows, consulships will take longer and longer. We can increase the time for debate to three days without slowing down the games, as time between senate session will grow as well.

**econ21** · 06-15-2006, 12:17

[SENATE SPEAKER]: Yes, apologies, Senator Swordsmaster but the deadline for submitting (and revising) motions has passed. There will be another opportunity to submit motions in the mid-term session of Senate in two and a half years.

[OOC: Three days for debate would be fine. We had 2.5 this time.]

**SwordsMaster** · 06-15-2006, 12:24

Originally Posted by econ21

[SENATE SPEAKER]: Yes, apologies, Senator Swordsmaster but the deadline for submitting (and revising) motions has passed. There will be another opportunity to submit motions in the mid-term session of Senate in two and a half years.

[OOC: Three days for debate would be fine. We had 2.5 this time.]

That is fine. I would like to propose the 3 corollaries as 3 general motions, then, to be approved out of ession, as they do not affect consulship.

**econ21** · 06-15-2006, 12:59

[QUINTUS]: On the naming of fleets, we may want to distinguish light transports from powerful warships.

Following Senator Swordmaster's suggestions, I propose we refer to our current fleet as a "Praetorian transport fleet".

If it were doubled in size, it would be a "Consular transport fleet"; if it were divided into two, it would be two "Legion transport fleets".

If were to build some Corvus Quinquiremes, we might refer to these as a "Naval Fleet". I am not sure refering to the size of the formations they may transport would be relevant in the case of warships - even five Corvus Quinquiremes would be a formiddable and expensive naval fleet.

Where we have multple fleets of the same size, we could enumerate them ("First Naval Fleet" etc).

If we did want to transport an entire Consular army in one season, a First Consul may prefer to do it by combining a Praetorian fleet, a naval fleet and either a second naval fleet or a Legion transport fleet. Maintaining a standing Consular transport fleet may be rather expensive and inflexible.

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 06-15-2006, 13:16

I second these ideas.

**econ21** · 06-15-2006, 18:35

[SENATE SPEAKER]: The results of the First Consul election are now confirmed - Augustus Verginius has been elected with a convincing majority!

He will now attend to his duties and return to report to us in two and a half years.

Members of the Lower House are urged to communicate with him if they have any special requests as to their deployment. Otherwise, they must stand ready to do battle within 48 hours if called upon.

The Senate wishes First Consul Verginius every success in implementing his planned campaigns in Gaul!

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 06-15-2006, 19:43

I am very pleased to be the first senator to congratulate Augustus Verginius with his consulship. I have every faith in him and I am sure that this senate has reached the right decision.

I understand that the other candidates are disappointed, but I am positive in five years time we will need a more rash and agressive (and expansive) approach to dealing with our enemies and then their talents will be better employed than they would be at the moment. For this is Verginius's his moment, the right man at the right place at the right time.

Hail Roma !

**Mount Suribachi** · 06-15-2006, 22:55

My hearty congratulations, Consul Augustus Verginius. I pray Fortuna will bless you with a succesful & prosperous reign.

May I inform the Senate that I shall be unable to attend sessions here, or conduct a battle in the field for the next 4 days.

Until then Conscript Fathers...

**shifty157** · 06-16-2006, 03:05

I bring to the Senate very gladly the first victory of our new Consul's reign. As any intelligent man would have expected the Gauls attacked us again at the river ford by Massilia and we were ready for them with unsheathed swords.

This horde which was just as large and fearsome as the last was lead personally by the Gaulish chieftan himself along with two of his close family members. The Gaulish chieftan it seems had called to his service one quarter of all of his fighting men in an effort to break our defenses and drive us back across the Alps.

The battle was a stunning success. The Gaulish chieftan was slain as he turned to run from my own sword. His two generals were slain as well. One as he charged the spear wall of our triarii and the other against my veteran principes. The rest of the Gauls were slain as they fled.

With this momentous victory I have destroyed the Gaulish chieftan and two of his generals and destroyed one fourth of the entire military might of Gaul. It is a glorious day indeed.

**TinCow** · 06-16-2006, 04:35

Even as I ride towards Massilia to congratulate Senator Laevinus on his glorious victory, I have received word that they are under assault yet again by another large Gallic force! Our spies had reported that the one destroyed in the Summer was the last they would be able to field for some time, yet another appears as if out of nowhere to challenge the battered, though victorious, Legio III.

Perhaps this will sway the minds of those who think that Carthage is still our prime concern...

**flyd** · 06-16-2006, 05:37

Hardly. The Gallic assaults are of little concern, as you have an easily defensible position against them. Carthage, on the other hand, could land a large army anywhere in Italy, Sicily, or the other islands, and you would be able to do nothing to stop them. Luckily, thus far they have been either too incompetent to realize that, or uninterested in a war. Hopefully, they will remain so. I wish you luck in Gaul, Consul.

**shifty157** · 06-16-2006, 05:49

I lay before the Senate and people of Rome another victory over Gaul. Again they raised a horde to assault our defenses and again the veteran troops of Legio III fought back across the river. This army was led by the Gaulish faction heir and a trusted general. I personally saw to the faction heir so that he would not escape while the other general wasted himself on the spears of my triarii. Over 1000 Gauls were slain. I and my cavalry killed nearly half as I am proud to say that my escort is now skilled enough to challenge enemy infantry directly.

I also bring the good news that my younger son Decius has come of age and will hopefully attend the academy. Though I fear he is somewhat unruly he will do well for Rome.