USA - evil imperialists or benevolent superpower?

[Divinus Arma]

Discuss.

BUT, let's at least make an attempt at objectivity. I know many of us are "dug in" so to speak.

[Csargo]

Um Point

[stalin]

I think the tubgirl picture sums up USA foreign policy

[Ice]

Neither. We are a mix of both. The US is certainly not the Great Satan, but at the same time, we are out to make a buck.

[Leet Eriksson]

Benevolent superpower.

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more benevolent than past super powers.

you guys better be glad you were born in this age and time than in the past, when looking at someone funny might get you killed.

[makkyo]

The US is #1 in foreign aid, #1 funder of the United Nations, and consquently #1 military/economic power in the world. It could be worse.

[Watchman]

Doesn't make their "We Be Good" attitude any less insufferable though.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Us>Them.

[Justiciar]

USA? That's near Belarus, right?

Never really cared. There are a few things that I don't like about the US, but I wouldn't call it an evil imperialist state. Who would you rather have holding the power anyhow? The US or.. Burma, or something?

[Papewaio]

Neither.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

80/20 Benevolent over imperialist.

As I've said consistently, we're lousy imperialists and have never gotten the hang of stepping on necks very well. Heavens, we even beat up on Mexico and then paid them for the land we took (admittedly, a low-ish price, but still.....)

Watchman:

I remind you of M. Ali's (aka Cassius Clay) famous dictum.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee?

I agree, we aren't very good at being imperialists, otherwise we wouldn't have invaded Afgahnistan, and we would've taken greater pains to secure Iraq's oil and less to set up a democracy.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

It ain't braggin' if you can do it.

[Csargo]

We aren't evil imperialists no......no we aren't "HURRY RUN"

I have no idea why americans would ride horses

[Justiciar]

I have no idea why americans would ride horses

They're all gay cowboys, remember?

[Watchman]

agree, we aren't very good at being imperialists, otherwise we wouldn't have invaded Afgahnistan, and we would've taken greater pains to secure Iraq's oil and less to set up a democracy.

80/20 Benevolent over imperialist.

As I've said consistently, we're lousy imperialists and have never gotten the hang of stepping on necks very well. Heavens, we even beat up on Mexico and then paid them for the land we took (admittedly, a low-ish price, but still.....)

Being chronically incompetent at it isn't really much of a defense, you know.

Watchman:

I remind you of M. Ali's (aka Cassius Clay) famous dictum.

Alas, I must profess unfamiliarity with the seeds of wisdom sown by this great thinker. Might you enlighten this curious soul ?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Being chronically incompetent at it isn't really much of a defense, you know.
Alas, I must profess unfamiliarity with the seeds of wisdom sown by this great thinker. Might you enlighten this curious soul ?

Ahem....Our lack of competence in this area stems more from attitude than capability -- though perhaps I wasn't clear given my tendency to wander a bit...

Ali said "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Perhaps we are a bit over the top about being the "nice guys," but I would assert that we have more reason than many (though I'm well aware we've a less than perfect track record).

[Watchman]

Isn't that what they all say ?

[BHCWarman88]

Ahem....Our lack of competence in this area stems more from attitude than capability -- though perhaps I wasn't clear given my tendency to wander a bit...

Ali said "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Perhaps we are a bit over the top about being the "nice guys," but I would assert that we have more reason than many (though I'm well aware we've a less than perfect track record).

I think We Too Nice,or we too stupid,or Both..
I think we proably Both Benevolent and Evil.. But Hey, it all good,lol..

[Azi Tohak]

Evil imperialists of course. There is no such thing as a nation being benevolent, not even loveable little countries like Australia or New Zealand or Libya or Iran.

Azi

[Lemur]

Do I have to choose? Can't we be both, and more?

[Csargo]

Why can't we all just get along.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Both indeed. Sometimes both at once, sometimes alternating between the two.

Overall, I would like to quote Churchill's quote about democracy, but as I can't for the life of me remember it, I won't.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Ah, the wonders of Google:

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Winston Churchill

One could equal democracy with 'the USA as the sole superpower'.

[Csargo]

Ah, the wonders of Google:

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Winston Churchill

One could equal democracy with 'the USA as the sole superpower'.

Yeah Louis until the Chinese or Canadians over run us and take away that title. I'm just waiting for that day to come around. And then everyone will be talking about them instead of us.That'll be the day.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Yeah Louis until the Chinese or Canadians over run us and take away that title. I'm just waiting for that day to come around. And then everyone will be talking about them instead of us.That'll be the day.

Oh please God, no. Nothing lasts forever, and neither will America's status as the sole hyperpower. Someday, somebody's going to take the title from you guys.

But please, not them Canadians.

[Csargo]

I dont know Louis those are some sneaky Canadians they might take the crown from right under or noses. We should make France and Texas pact to take them out.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Anytime. Got to stop them Canucks.

Say what, you guys fabricate take some pictures of Canadian WMD's, and we'll back you in the Security Council.

[Csargo]

Yeah Louis I'll get right on that we may need some more people to help us out with this project.

[Samurai Waki]

...Albania has been eyeing us for far to long...