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    Default Galloway: Murder of Blair Would Be "Morally Justified"

    What a loon. I'm surprised he's managed to stay in office.

    The Respect MP George Galloway has said it would be morally justified for a suicide bomber to murder Tony Blair.

    In an interview with GQ magazine, the reporter asked him: "Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber - if there were no other casualties - be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?"

    Mr Galloway replied: "Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it - but if it happened it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq - as Blair did."
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    I don't recall the order from Blair to the British troops saying "kill thousands of innocent people". Ah well.

    Here's a fun bit:
    Mr Galloway yesterday made a surprise appearance on Cuban television with the Caribbean island's Communist dictator, Fidel Castro - whom he defended as a "lion" in a political world populated by "monkeys".

    Mr Galloway shocked panellists on a live television discussion show in Havana by emerging on set mid-transmission to offer passionate support for Castro. Looking approvingly into each others' eyes, the pair embraced.
    I guess old tyrannical socialists who trample human liberty for the "common good" (or want to) have a thing for each other.

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    Silly Fat Communist, who needed to go into the Big Brother house for attention.
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    Default Re: Galloway: Murder of Blair Would Be "Morally Justified"

    I don't believe in murder even of those who have caused the murders of others - which is one of the reasons for my stance on the death penalty, etc - but you can see what Galloway is stating.

    If an unemployed Sunni in Iraq who feels he has to blow himself up for his country, people and himself to have a future and he takes out Blair, it would probably be a fair result considering what Blair had done to him. Sort of a self defence attack. Not that I would really like to see it, I would prefere blair sort the problems in Iraq, but after the news conference last night, there seems to be no hope, now he is on about reforming the UN, bloody hell.
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    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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    Ahh, nothing like good moral relitavism. Nothing is wrong with anything so do whatever you want. Is this story verified and credible? I think I liked him better when he was called "Boy George" and had a few hits in the '80's.


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    I dislike Galloway. But on this point I agree. If leaders make wars then they should be prepared to get a little blowback.
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    Really? So you'd be OK with your PM being assonated? You've just lost so much credibility and respect in my eyes. That's the leader of your country, he represents you. If you want him to get fired that's one thing but you're ok with someone trying to kill him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    Ahh, nothing like good moral relitavism.
    For once I agree with Vladimir. George Galloway (and JAG and several others here) seem to be casually slipping from "Person X thinks killing Blair is morally justified" to "Killing Blair is morally justified".

    Sure we can all understand why some person X might be mad at Blair and think it is morally justified - where person X might be some Sunni militant who lost his job, his country to the Shiites, his sense of national pride when his land was invaded, maybe lost some of his friends/family, etc. Heck, I even believe Osama Bin Laden thinks what he did was "morally justified" (even though I think it was morally despicable).

    But saying "Person X thinks killing Blair is morally justified" is light years from being able to say "Killing Blair is morally justified". To say the latter implies you, George Galloway, whoever, agree with person X.

    Or if you think it does not mean that, you have no moral compass and so no place in politics or commenting on politics.

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    Default Re: Galloway: Murder of Blair Would Be "Morally Justified"

    sounds like someone is still smarting over the total pounding Galloway gave the Republican led U.S. Senate

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    Quote Originally Posted by solypsist
    sounds like someone is still smarting over the total pounding Galloway gave the Republican led U.S. Senate
    That would be...you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by solypsist
    sounds like someone is still smarting over the total pounding Galloway gave the Republican led U.S. Senate
    Galloway is a cheap demagogue. His debating "style" is the same as Muhammed Ali - he simply shouts the opponent down with the number and volume of his words and throws in a few controversial statements to further throw his opponent off balance. Such as "you armed Saddam in the first place", which is complete rubbish, but it sounds great and gets the anti-war crowd all excited. I remember him getting a round of applause on the Wright Stuff for throwing that one out. Sadly no-one asked him to name just one weapons system the Americans supplied to Saddam Hussein, because he wouldn't be able to.

    I loathed Galloway for his hateful and hypocritical views long before his appearance before the US Senate, and he showed the British public what a nasty piece of work he is on Celebrity Big Brother. I just feel sorry for all the muslims who voted for him thinking he somehow represented them. They have been used.
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    Sadly no-one asked him to name just one weapons system the Americans supplied to Saddam Hussein, because he wouldn't be able to.

    Why ? isn't Galloway up to date with the weapons that America supplied Saddam with .
    Or is it just that you are not up to date Suribachi ?
    Ask the Marsh Arabs , hey Saddameven got a waiver on the cease fire conditions so he could use the American weapons to put down the rebellion .
    Galloway is a cheap demagogue. His debating "style" is the same as Muhammed Ali
    At least you are right there . Like he says , he approaches every confrontation just as though he was still a boxer , keep them reeling from the blows and don't allow them a chance to recover their guard .
    Last edited by Tribesman; 05-26-2006 at 21:54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Sadly no-one asked him to name just one weapons system the Americans supplied to Saddam Hussein, because he wouldn't be able to.

    Why ? isn't Galloway up to date with the weapons that America supplied Saddam with .
    Or is it just that you are not up to date Suribachi ?
    Ask the Marsh Arabs , hey Saddameven got a waiver on the cease fire conditions so he could use the American weapons to put down the rebellion .
    I see you fail to mention these weapons America supposedly supplied Saddam with. Regarding the incident you refer to,I think you will find almost all the pro-war people on this board regard the failure of the Bush administration to support the rebellion in the south as a huge mistake. He encouraged them to revolt after the '91 war, then left them to be massacred. There was also an oversight in the ceasefire agreement that allowed the Iraqis to use their helicopter gunships.

    Still waiting to find out what weapons systems America supplied Saddam with. 90% of Iraqs hardware came from Russia, 10% from France. The most America ever supplied Saddam with was just enough intelligence from their satellites to prolong the Iran-Iraq war, thus keeping Iran in check.
    "I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."

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    I see you fail to mention these weapons America supposedly supplied Saddam with.
    supposedly ?????? get real
    There was also an oversight in the ceasefire agreement that allowed the Iraqis to use their helicopter gunships.

    Now which helicopter gunships would they be ? They wouldn't be the helicopter gunships that congress blocked the sale of , but then allowed the sale as long as they didn't get delivered with the TOW missiles included.
    Now there wouldn't be a little problem with supplying cluster bombs to Saddam would there ? but then again the house did debate at length in '91how Saddam had American made Cluster bombs after the sale had been blocked , it appears that the Chilean front company wasn't much of a front in the end .
    I suppose you are familiar with the 18 US companies named in the UNSCOM investigation for supplying Saddam with his Chemical Warfare requirement .
    You may also be familiar with the investigations into the Loans and crdits Reagan and Bush gave saddam being used for weapons purchases , through an American arms dealer , (that lead to another Senate hearing)

    But it seems that unfortunately you are not familiar at all with Saddams arms purchases are you .
    So Suribachi , before you make silly statements about "supposed" arms supplied , it might be a good idea to learn a little something about them .

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