What M2TW Expansion Do You Want?

[Mooks]

Latin states/ and or a byzatine map.

[JR-]

one thing

the east, i.e. asia inc japan

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

RTW and BI covered the history of Rome. I dont know what they could do with a RTW2. I would actually like to see a whole new TW game. Maybe Mongolia:Total War or China:Total War

[Martok]

RTW and BI covered the history of Rome. I dont know what they could do with a RTW2. I would actually like to see a whole new TW game. Maybe Mongolia:Total War or China:Total War

I still really dig the idea of China Total War, set in the Spring & Autumn period.

[Perplexed]

Has anyone ever thought of "Muslim Invasion", an expansion which would chronicle the Moorish conquest of the Iberian peninsula. That would be a fresh and new experience (to me at least). Perhaps instead of the barbarians invading and crushing the civilized world it could be the other way around.

*edit*
Looking over the thread I realize that the idea has been touched upon. Sorry.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Dont the Almohads in MTW cover the muslim invasion of Spain?

[Perplexed]

No, the time period of MTW covers the gradual expulsion of Islam from the Iberian Peninsula. By that time, the balance of power in Spain lay increasingly with the northern Visigothic States, who eventually expelled the Muslims in the 15th century. The Moors actually invaded (colonized might be a better word) the Iberian peninsula during the Dark Ages, a little earlier than the period of Viking raids in northern Europe, and were extremely successful, putting almost all of the peninsula under Muslim rule. They reached as far as extreme southern France, but were halted at the Battle of Tours by the Frankish duke Charles Martel. It's an immensely important event in European history, a pivotal battle; things wouldn't be the same today if "the Hammer" had been defeated.

[barocca]

SHOGUN

B.

[Archayon]

not VI2: it would be far too predictible...

S2TW: could be nice to get polished

also some expansion about the crusader states would be nice
with an expanded middle east territory
it's still medieval after all ...



Arch

[Dimeola]

STW.....make the map big....the turns cover less time.....add the possibility of a Korean campaign, Mongols of course.....
...what I would love to see is not just waltzing into a province, win a battle, seige a castle...and you take the province. But with a lrger map and shorter turns there will be more strategy involved......like maybe taking a series of castles in order to assault the main castle.....anyway there is such potential........
...yea and WHY dont they EVER include a modders kit with their games. They know you guys are gonna mod it, and they SHOULD love that, because it extends the playability of their product. Has anyone ever approached them about it?
dim

[PROMETHEUS]

I would say the European Invasion , It would be cool to have a more detailed setting for Europeans when they invade the New World , so more local factions and all the colonial factions from Europe......

[Vladimir]

Ok, finally found this on the official site:

476 AD

The last Roman Emperor in the West, Romulus Augustulus, is deposed and allowed to retire to his estate because he isn't important enough to murder. This formally marks the Fall of the Roman Empire, even though the Eastern Empire lasts nearly a thousand years longer. So starts the period that is often referred to as the "Dark Ages". Rome Total War™ - Barbarian Invasion nominally ends in this year.

Not having BI I did not know when the game ended so when someone responded to my suggestion about a Rise of Islam Total War, that this had already been covered in BI, I didn't know how to respond. I think a good ~400 year (or 200 turn, whatever) expansion from ~600 - ~1,000 A.D. would be a great idea.

Do most of the people here want a gunpowder expansion? Having a game based on gunpowder (as opposed to leading to) seems contrary to the Total War philosophy. What are your thoughts against this proposal? MTW went backwards and north to the Isles, why can’t M2 go back and south?

[Kambyses]

Hello;
IMO Napoleanic:TOTAL WAR should be the next total war game ,and after that ROME 2:TOTAL WAR.

About M2:TW expansion ,Rise of Islam:Total War is good idea.As an Iranian would like to fight off the invasion of those nomadic Arabs invader into my country and get Sassanid empire back to power again. However this subject contains the same factions and map in BI.I preffer a new subject with new factions and new map.Somthing like Rise of Persia.

Cheers
-Kambiz

[Vladimir]

Well the Napoleonic era is one of the most exciting times in European history. My biggest problem with later ear epochs is the global colonial aspect. If they can make a Total War game on the scale of Europa Universalis, I would be much happier.

OT: You’re from Iran? Cool! I hope things cool down between our two countries as I’ve always been fascinated by your history.

[Kambyses]

I hope so Vladimir ,But Where are you from?

[Fwapper]

Well it's not like CA to do a bad expansion pack... (ignores people who brought ATW) ....so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Alien_Tortoise2345]

Maybe something to do with the wars of the Reformation period (The Reformation started in 1517 yet I haven't heard of Protestantism featuring in Medieval II. Does it come up later in the game?), or Voyages of Discovery other than South America e.g. Magellan, Prince Henry the Navigator. Also I would extend the map to include more of Africa and most of the Asian coast. Remember that the Portuguese and Spanish empires began in the 1400's and included Cape Verde, the Spice Islands (Indonesia), Phillipines etc. Maybe call it "Conquistadors - Total War".

[Dead Knight of the Living]

I would like to see an expansion entitled (drumroll) VIENNA: TOTAL WAR

Lemme break it down for you.

This expansion would have two start points.


Long campaign would begin on the eve of the Battle of Mohacs in 1526. The Turks are expanding into Europe hot and heavy. There's the threat of a second Mongol invasion. Russia is just coming into their own. Poland (yes Poland) is one of the strongest military powers in Europe. We can get a little 30 years War action and see the beginning of the Great Northern War that will launch Russia as a majuh playuh. And the Hapsburgs gain influence and power every year.

This campaign would end in with the Treaty of Szatmár (1711) when Hungary is incorporated in with the Austrian Empire. or 1721 when the Great Northern War ends. You all vote on it.

Short Campaign.

Start 1683 just prior to the beginning of the Siege of Vienna and end in 1711 or 1721.


Again, you all vote on it or make modifications or tell me I'm crazy.

[Salazar]

Renaissace Europe (especially 30 Years War), though i wonder how they'd call it, protestant invasion or what?

[The Wizard]

Every expansion up until now was an Invasion, so I'm expecting a Turkish Invasion. In other words:

This expansion would have two start points.

Long campaign would begin on the eve of the Battle of Mohacs in 1526. The Turks are expanding into Europe hot and heavy. There's the threat of a second Mongol invasion. Russia is just coming into their own. Poland (yes Poland) is one of the strongest military powers in Europe. We can get a little 30 years War action and see the beginning of the Great Northern War that will launch Russia as a majuh playuh. And the Hapsburgs gain influence and power every year.

This campaign would end in with the Treaty of Szatmár (1711) when Hungary is incorporated in with the Austrian Empire. or 1721 when the Great Northern War ends. You all vote on it.

Short Campaign.

Start 1683 just prior to the beginning of the Siege of Vienna and end in 1711 or 1721.

Great idea.

[Asean]

Mongol: Total War is PERFECT! The mod could be Mongol based, but include factions from all over Asia, the Middle East and Eastern Europe. The map should extend from France to Japan, from Siberia to Sri Lanka and from Baghdad to Vietnam.

[Alien_Tortoise2345]

I don't agree with those calling for a Rome2 TW. I think Medieval II is being created primarily because the old graphical engine couldn't really do the period justice the way the post-Rome engine can. I think the Rome-engine itself is fine, but await the Medieval II one with bated breathe from watching the movie files and screenshots. I suppose it could be argued that there is a fairly long period between the ending of Rome around 27 AD and 378 where BI starts. This is true, but is there really much that needs to cover this period that a mod couldn't do - and not necessarily a very complicated one?

On the idea of Viking Invasion II that might be interesting and an ideal context in which to introduce the longed for real-time naval battles. I'm curious to know how this plays in Rise and Fall:Civilisations at War. I am very disappointed in CA for the absence of this exciting element from Medieval II. However I still stand by my preference for a Renaissance Expansion.

[AquaLurker]

Probably colonial expansion or Ottomon invasion?

[Antagonist]

If the logic of the previous expansions is anything to go by, I would think that an expanded New World or 16th/17th Century Europe would be the most likely candidates. I really can't see Rome 2 or Napoleon, especially in an expansion.

VI was enjoyable but very limited in scope (and, as I have since come to realise, appalingly historically inaccurate, but nevermind that) but I wouldn't mind a broader depiction of Northern Europe in that timeframe. (I don't think they would do a Dark Age mod set earlier then VI unless it was focused on something like the rise of Islam, otherwise it might as well be a remake of BI) I'd also be surprised if they elected to feature a completely different area (eg Asia)

Pretty much every idea in this thread could work, but I would say a New World colonisation ("European Invasion") or extending the timeline of regular MTW2 to accomodate the religious upheaval, Ottoman expansion etc. are the most likely scenarios. Hell, they could even do both, though that might be too much for an expansion.

Another possibility is that they might further explore the idea of online distribution, especially if Alexander sold well. "Episodic content" is a big buzzword right now, perhaps CA might follow Valve with the idea of several small "expansions" primarily geared towards internet distribution.

There's certainly a lot of possibilities.

Antagonist

[hoetje]

I honestly don't see them doing an Islam Invasion considering the sensitivity about anything Islam in Europe these days. I even doubt they'd go for Ottoman invasion. My money is still on American Invasion.

think you are right doc bean.It is indeed the most logical to work out the concept of the Americas a bit more .

[Tristrem]

the rise of islam seems to most logical, and is still neglected in the world of total war

[DisruptorX]

I would like a Total War game focusing on the various Chinese states (any era, really, though around 200 AD would be the best), and surounding kingdoms.

Or a total war game focusing on 1500-1700. Or a Napoleanic Total War.

All three of those would be great. I don't want another rome: total war, the Romans are so boring. -_-

[poo_for_brains]

I think that the expansion should be, and will be, an expansion of the americas to include far more of south america, and the west indies etc.

For the next full total war game, I really hope it's Napoeonic Total War. It would shake up the TW formula a bit, provide a perfect arena for the introduction of naval battles, and I think it would be a great fun to play.
(Although I have developed this opinion almost solely due to the awesome looking preview shots of NTW2)

[GodWillsIt]

Something along the lines of an asian expansion...maybe something w/ the temple kingdoms of India??

[caravel]

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