Riots : Does lower Public order = worse riots ?

[Celt Centurion]

Im having fun in the Carthage PBM. I play real slow but like to take and post many screenshots.

I see from your sig you are taking part in the will of senate PBM..looks complex.

In RTW V1.5 - No Mods I have observed:

- Red face occures at 70% Public Order or below
- 70% has no riot. It is OK.
- 65% and below and the first turn is riot
- 65% and below and second turn is usually rebellion
- Big towns have more squallor so more likely to have order problems.

So a technique I currently employ in those cities that are borderline or beyond is let it riot for one turn. And big time. 0% public order (high tax and no garrison to speak of). Then recover it the next turn. The high tax turn is one where the govenor is in place and completes a building. He will gain some positive trait but at some risk from death due to the riot.

Most of my riots are in large, and huge cities. In large ones, they get worse at around 23,000 and of course kill a few thousand civilians and cannot upgrade, but they continue to riot.

I'd really like to see the riots just modded out. I seriously doubt that riots took place in these cities with the frequency and severity shown in this game. As I said in another thread, I lose more troops to riots, and sustain more damage to buildings in riots, than in combat.

Then it costs a fortune to repair the damage. No sooner do I get the buildings repaired and troops retrained, then the idiots riot again.

If riots cannot be modded out, an acceptable alternative would be to zoom in on the rioting city in "battle map" mode, find the rioters, and kill them all! I have had more riots tonight than battles. I'm really fed up with them.

Strength and Honor,

Celt Centurion

[x-dANGEr]

That's why I love finishing the game early.

[Severous]

If damage occurs to buildings in a riot I wont automatically go and repair it. If I am expecting riots again and dont immediately need the building then I will leave it in its damaged state. Depends how tight or flush the money situation is.

My riots are also in bigger cities. Thats where the squallor is bad.

Im no mod person. I suspect a temple could be modded to provide a really big public order bonus..like +50% Law instead of +5%. That would increase public order and thus help keep you above the 65% point that riots start.

[x-dANGEr]

But their are temples like that. As far as I know temples of fun/order provide a total of +60% public order.. (Maybe in some cases with some factions, though)

And the most annoying part is playing with barbs.. Just imagine the picture, you take Rome; a full developed Roman City. You suffer from 50% culture penalty, alongside what 40k angry population? (Cut down the third though). And with it's high hygiene, and probably low tax rate to keep it in order, population will grow up in no time, making you suffer..