Draw during battle

[KrooK]

I got battle some days ago. I got some cav and archers left and my opponent got heavy infantry but without cav or archers.
Neighter my opponent could win nor me. I would die charging on his infrantry, he would never catch my fast units.
I think it could be ideal definition of tie. No one can win but no one can loose too. What do you think? Maybe we should add new result ?

[tibilicus]

Surley no matter what the situation one persons play can always beat the other?

Tib

[KrooK]

I completely disagree with you m8.
Inf never catch cav on steppes.
Cav never breaks inf spam with shildkrots - simply no one can win (i mean similar level of players not noob vs expert).

[tibilicus]

I get what your saying Krook but what I meant to say was surely some one will have to lose? If they choose to or not.

Although a draw could be a good idea it porably wouldn't happen to much.

Tib

[ZIM!!]

Well , one thing I hate is chasing down remnant units at the end of a battle like archers if all my cav is dead it can go on forever. 1 game a real jerk kept me chasing his remaining 10 archers for about 20 mins with my 40 or 5 full units of heavy inf

[BHCWarman88]

I had when all my Cav/Eles/Chariots are dead,and I have to chase 4-6 Full or Almost Full Units of Archers around..

[x-dANGEr]

I got battle some days ago. I got some cav and archers left and my opponent got heavy infantry but without cav or archers.
Neighter my opponent could win nor me. I would die charging on his infrantry, he would never catch my fast units.
I think it could be ideal definition of tie. No one can win but no one can loose too. What do you think? Maybe we should add new result ?

No. Basicaly, you'd depete your arrows on him, and then charge, that's the hidden code of gameplay I think.

[LadyAnn]

A unit chased for a while will rout automatically. You lose. However, if he doesn't do it right, you may catch him off guard and rout him.

Another metric: if one opponent gets 3/4 of the territory and out number you 3:1 then it is a honorable thing to conceed victory to your opponent. It is a hardest skill to learn: when to conceed victory and call it a good game.

Anniep

ps.: clarification: I believe the one with infantry has the burden of resolve the conflict as in theory he should win. There is no honor loss for you to wait forever.

[Orda Khan]

Hello Krook,
I agree with your summary entirely, the exact same thing happened with my first battle in RTW. I had my HA and my mate had his cohorts. I had no arrows left, his cohorts were exhausted. The stuation, as you described, is a stalemate.
The outcome was a draw, we both agreed on that and it was a fitting end to a hard fought battle. We do not need this as a new result, a draw exists already in campaign battles. In MP all it takes is for an honourable opponent (such as my mate) to declare the outcome and for the other to agree.

Not all battles ended with a clear winner

.....Orda

[BHCWarman88]

Yeah,I won't admit Deafet unless it under extreme Measure although..

[KrooK]

LadyAnn - you are in mistake.
In rome elite horse archers won't run, especially when your army is more valuable. You are talking about honor - here i can't agree with you. Best option is simply agree on draw.

[x-dANGEr]

Hello Krook,
I agree with your summary entirely, the exact same thing happened with my first battle in RTW. I had my HA and my mate had his cohorts. I had no arrows left, his cohorts were exhausted. The stuation, as you described, is a stalemate.
The outcome was a draw, we both agreed on that and it was a fitting end to a hard fought battle. We do not need this as a new result, a draw exists already in campaign battles. In MP all it takes is for an honourable opponent (such as my mate) to declare the outcome and for the other to agree.

Not all battles ended with a clear winner

.....Orda

I wouldn't agree. You had no arrows left, or any other units, so what should've been done (IMO) is do a final charge and lose the game, doing as many casualties in his army to make the defeat less great. I remember a 3 on 3 with fellow RTKs, that was basically a HA spam game (I had the Huns on my side + my Roxolanii), the point is we depleted all our arrows on them, and they were still alive, we didn't call it a draw, but rather died in a LotR: RotK last battle in Mordor.

[Orda Khan]

I wouldn't agree. You had no arrows left, or any other units, so what should've been done (IMO) is do a final charge and lose the game, doing as many casualties in his army to make the defeat less great. I remember a 3 on 3 with fellow RTKs, that was basically a HA spam game (I had the Huns on my side + my Roxolanii), the point is we depleted all our arrows on them, and they were still alive, we didn't call it a draw, but rather died in a LotR: RotK last battle in Mordor.

What is gained by this? Why spoil an otherwise great battle? A general does not send his men to certain death

[Rodion Romanovich]

I got battle some days ago. I got some cav and archers left and my opponent got heavy infantry but without cav or archers.
Neighter my opponent could win nor me. I would die charging on his infrantry, he would never catch my fast units.
I think it could be ideal definition of tie. No one can win but no one can loose too. What do you think? Maybe we should add new result ?

One funny thing, was that I was in your situation once in a battle, and actually managed to feint charge in a way so that the opponent was fooled to split up a bit, and by recharging my cavs into isolated units several times I eventually demoralized and killed enough to break up his heavy infantry. Needless to say, he wasn't pleased with the result and accused me of cheating

[BHCWarman88]

One funny thing, was that I was in your situation once in a battle, and actually managed to feint charge in a way so that the opponent was fooled to split up a bit, and by recharging my cavs into isolated units several times I eventually demoralized and killed enough to break up his heavy infantry. Needless to say, he wasn't pleased with the result and accused me of cheating

lol, I had people like that.. I destroyed his army and had 1 good unit of cav left hiding behind a hill,and I flank his archers,and he said I cheated,lol..