Florida Teen Saves Family With Gun Training and Pistol

**Fragony** · 05-30-2006, 17:33

Originally Posted by Tribesman

So Frag , considering your long running "unique" interpretations of Dutch legal cases , could you provide any details of cases involving homeowners killing armed intruders then being found guilty ?

Well here is one, fast huh

http://www.nieuwnieuws.nl/archives/2...eersteken.html

**Tribesman** · 05-30-2006, 17:55

Well here is one, fast huh

So you have two people who knew each other having a dispute over ownership of a games console ?
Right frag

**Fragony** · 05-30-2006, 18:01

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well here is one, fast huh

So you have two people who knew each other having a dispute over ownership of a games console ?
Right frag

Nope it went more like this,

This is how we do it in lalaland. Guy comes home, finds burglar, burglar grabs knife, guy grabs knive, burglar aquires unnecesary ventilation and dies. Now is this self-defence thou ask, it would certainly seem so, nope, guy has to go to jail for manslaughter.

as I said before, different case though. I just don't make that much effort for you.

**Tribesman** · 05-30-2006, 18:06

I just don't make that much effort for you.
No it appears that you just make it up .

**Fragony** · 05-30-2006, 18:16

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No it appears that you just make it up .

But of course, we have this every time. You ask links/evidence/anything and I kindly provide it, and when I do so you are out hunting haggis.

**Tribesman** · 05-30-2006, 19:05

You ask links/evidence/anything and I kindly provide it, and when I do so you are out hunting haggis.
No Frag , I asked for a case that backed up your claim about dutch law , what you provided has absolutely nothing to do with what you claimed .

Now there was a case in Britain where someone killed a burglar , he was found guilty because he killed the burglar when the thief was not a threat to him so it was not self defense , there was a case just up the road recently where a farmer was found guilty of manslaughter (though it was clearly murder) after killing a burglar when it was not self defense .
Everywhere has laws defining murder , manslaughter and every other type of killing , just as they have laws stipulating what constitutes self-defense and intent .
For you to try and claim that Holland does not have these laws and that the courts do not follow the laws of the land just shows that once again you are giving your "unique" interpretation of Dutch laws .

**Fragony** · 05-30-2006, 19:27

Fascinating story but I don't believe you, link please.

It is just as I told you, violence>burglary. If there is anything the dutch judges don't like it's taking matters into your own hands when the police is to busy warming their ass with their own; if that strikes you as insane by all means ride with me. There is having the law and applying it. I gave you what you wanted, one case, exactly what you asked for. Can give you a whole lot more.