Petition to get MTW GOLD Patched to 2.01

[greywolf]

please count me in as well. thanks!

[The Shogun]

Ok we are looking in to this. My understanding is there may well be a patch for this issue. But that is not confirmed and I can't confirm it for at least a week or so. However there is no need for a petition, in fact you should all be aware of our opinion on these by now. Online petitions have to be disregarded as a measure of opinion as they are completely open to abuse there is no email authentication so any one make multiple signatures. So for example some one could start a petition saying that we should completely scrap the strategy map form our games. Then set up a PC to auto generate signatures and a few days later you a have petition with 1000's of signatures.

So I will let you know within two weeks what's happening with this, if you don't here back from be please get one of the admins to PM me. I am really busy at the moment so some things do slip from time to time.

I hope that helps guys?

[caravel]

Ok we are looking in to this. My understanding is there may well be a patch for this issue. But that is not confirmed and I can't confirm it for at least a week or so.

So finally you're hinting that there may be a patch? When this issue was raised over at the offical forums, the topics related to it were quickly closed and members informed that the VI 2.01 patch would suffice. It is good that this is being finally looked inot though.

However there is no need for a petition, in fact you should all be aware of our opinion on these by now. Online petitions have to be disregarded as a measure of opinion as they are completely open to abuse there is no email authentication so any one make multiple signatures.

I disagree, this is a call for a show of support from the existing userbase of this forum. To suggest that those members involved are simply the same person using multiple accounts is ludicrous. The administration could have verified the originating IP addresses if necessary, so this is easily proven. Most of those signing are long standing members, not those that have just registered with the sole purpose of signing this petition. Email authentrication is in place in this software (Vbulletin). The same email address cannot be used to register multiple accounts.

So for example some one could start a petition saying that we should completely scrap the strategy map form our games. Then set up a PC to auto generate signatures and a few days later you a have petition with 1000's of signatures.

Not on this messageboard. What you're trying to describe is some kind of a robotic registration hack. AS I've said, the members that have posted are long term members not generated bots, all posting from the same IP address.

So I will let you know within two weeks what's happening with this, if you don't here back from be please get one of the admins to PM me. I am really busy at the moment so some things do slip from time to time.

I hope that helps guys?

Well, let's hope that this issue is now addressed and that a patch is created. Despite the seemingly harsh manner of this post, I sincerely appreciate your coming here to make this statment.

CSXVI

[Ludens]

So I will let you know within two weeks what's happening with this, if you don't here back from be please get one of the admins to PM me. I am really busy at the moment so some things do slip from time to time.

I hope that helps guys?

It does. Thanks for the response, Shogun.

[Puzz3D]

A warning message posted on the forums about MTW Gold is the most effective thing to do. As you can see, petitions will be ignored. It's interesting that CA is responding to this because officially they claim product support isn't their responsibility.

[Kralizec]

Till then it might be useful to make a list of countries where improver Gold versions are distributed.

In the Netherlands you get the proper, patched version.

[Martok]

Thanks Shogun. We appreciate the response!

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Thanks for your participation. But:

Online petitions have to be disregarded as a measure of opinion as they are completely open to abuse [...]

Fair enough in principle, but:

So for example some one could start a petition saying that we should completely scrap the strategy map form our games. Then set up a PC to auto generate signatures and a few days later you a have petition with 1000's of signatures.

Totalwar.ORG members are not autogenerated signatures. We have well established and long tried security measures, the Entrance Hall system and all, to make sure that it remains a place where honourable people with legitimate intentions of discussing the TotalWar games and other things in a civil and friendly atmosphere assemble. There have been very few and marginal instances of crossing the line, all of which being taken care of properly and promptly.

Added to that, quite a large majority of the signers of this petition at this board have been well known and respected members of the community for a long time. They should never be suspected of identity abuse.

I kindly and most respectfully protest such implications as a devoted ORGAH.
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[Mount Suribachi]

Well said Mouza

Still, good news that they are looking into this

[Papewaio]

Year / Join Date of Member
2000 1
2001 4
2002 7
2003 14
2004 19
2005 20
2006 13

There are 78 signed members on this thread, anyone who signed the thread but since has been permanently banned is not included. Two of these have only posted once on the Org to sign this thread. The other 76 have posted an average of 1589 posts each, for a total of 120,777 posts.

edited by request of the poster

[econ21]

I hope that helps guys?

Thanks for the positive response, Shogun.

To any subsequent posters taking offense: I'm sure Shogun was not saying we are Script bots. I think he's just saying there's no need for a separate on-line petition. My reading of his post is that he's not regarding this thread as a petition (even though we've labelled it as such).

CA posts on the Org have become so rare they tend to attract over-excited responses. There's a risk that this becomes a vicious circle. If trying to communicate and be helpful leads people to over-analyse and over-react to your posts, you can understand why people are reluctant to post.

[Myrddraal]

Thanks for dropping by Shogun

[R'as al Ghul]

To any subsequent posters taking offense: I'm sure Shogun was not saying we are Script bots.

Nevertheless, I agree wholeheartedly with Papewaio and Mouza.

CA posts on the Org have become so rare

I think we all know the reasons for that.
Communication in online forums is always difficult. Either you want contact and discussion with your fan base, or you don't.
Whining and complaining from either side isn't helping anyone.



just an agent

[econ21]

Communication in online forums is always difficult. Either you want contact and discussion with your fan base, or you don't. Whining and complaining from either side isn't helping anyone.

It's not an all or nothing thing. CA staff have limited time at work and like all of us, limited patience. If posting to fans produces positive responses, they will do it. If trying to be communicative and helpful leads them to be accused of whining and complaining, I can understand them staying away.

[R'as al Ghul]

If trying to be communicative and helpful leads them to be accused of whining and complaining, I can understand them staying away.

I was generally commenting on the atmosphere in the forums, lately (since R:TW). I didn't accuse anyone specific, although patrons are more guilty of it. Of course I understand that posting at .org isn't their main occupation but I always thought of it as an important tool for them.

If posting to fans produces positive responses, they will do it.

And only then, it seems. Since they are being criticized they're making themselves rather rare. Of course, this is my personal observation and needn't be true.

[KukriKhan]

Let's clear up a few things, so we can move on together.

1) Membership.
Being a Member here, whether Junior, Full, CA, or staff, means something special here; It means that your words get accorded respect, and are allowed the principle of charity (i.e. it's assumed that your intent is honorable). The_Shogun is a member here. He gets the same deal as the rest of us.

2) Staff:
Staff here are tasked to help Members. This thread & petition were started by staff in an attempt to help members solve a problem (50% of their game product being unusable). Kudo's to staff for using a petition, after exhausting the other, usual solutions - changing user settings, game settings, hardware configurations, etc. No other tech solution obtaining, staff resorted to the means at hand - the power of words, organized.

3) Petitions
It is well understood and remembered, the ugliness of some other past petition-drives in the totalwar community. Boycotts, won't-buys, and such like have tainted the reputation of petitions, and their ability to effect significant change. Nevertheless, after review, I certify that each signatory post in this thread was made by an individually-identifyable IP address. Such efforts should not be dismissed out-of-hand by developers and publishers due to past ugliness, because sometimes they are the only means seen as available by product-buyers to fix their problems.

All that siad... we asked for attention, attention is received and responded to. Solution is on the way, yes?

Thread re-opened.

[Tony Furze]

Great to see something s moving on this issue.

[caravel]

Thanks for the positive response, Shogun.

CA posts on the Org have become so rare they tend to attract over-excited responses. There's a risk that this becomes a vicious circle. If trying to communicate and be helpful leads people to over-analyse and over-react to your posts, you can understand why people are reluctant to post.

If only I could simply ignore all of the whining and complaining customers in my job...

[Silver Rusher]

+1

I mean... err... I sign.

[Divine Wind]

A positive step...at least i hope so.

Thanks for stopping by Shogun.

[Sun Tzui]

Im in!

[Mr Frost]

One more .

Customers should not have to break a contract simply to get what they paid for .

[The Shogun]

Chasing up on this now should have news in the next day or so...

[Martok]

Appreciate the update, Shogun.

[Mouzafphaerre]

Chasing up on this now should have news in the next day or so...

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[caravel]

Chasing up on this now should have news in the next day or so...

Superb, many thanks.

Again apolgoies for my earlier, somewhat harsh post, though I did feel that some of the administration over at the official forums were trying to sweep all of this under the carpet.

[Dutch_guy]

It's here

It was posted in the M2TW forum, so you might have missed it.

Thank you CA !

[barocca]

Medieval Gold Edition Patch Released : now available on www.totalwar.com under support/medieval!

:-)
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[Subedei]

Sign me in....

[Boohugh]

This thread can probably be unstickied now its been fixed

Got to think of a new sig now though