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    Bosnian Author Semir Osmanagić,claims that he has found Pyramids near town of Visoko. Excavations have started at April 2006 and are ongoing. He doesnt just claim that he has found one but several Pyramids on the area that was the medieval Capital of Bosnia.He claims as the Pyramids date between 12000 BC- 500BC(Pretty long time methinks)Here are some pics from the excavations:











    Do you guys believe that this could be actually true?And these excavations will give us a piece of lost history. That there has been a coulture in Europe that has builded these Pyramids?And if so,what coulture that could have been?

    Here are is a website with more information and Wiki article about these alledged Pyramids:

    http://www.bosnian-pyramid.com/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid
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    Cool! Actually many sources indicate it isn't completely impossible that the Balkan or Asia minor region had civilizations predating those of Egypt and Mesopotamia. However, until they've made C14 tests I think it's too early to say anything. As the structures are pyramids I'd say it's probably from before roman times, so 500 BC at the latest seems a reasonable guess IMO. But how old they could be at the maximum I won't try to guess. It'll be interesting to see what time they're dated to after C14 tests are made.
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    This is amazing...

    Why hasnt it been covered by the media more ?
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    Well, if it turns out to be true, and if I have the free time, I might just go over there and take a look. It's only five, six hours away by car.

    And it was covered, in the Balkans, at least, the rest of the world was busy with silly little things like the war in Iraq, Iran going atomic, etc, etc. Besides, it's Bosnia, it didn't get attention when there was a war there (which included UN troops caught in the middle), so why should it get any attention now?

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    I am from Serbia,this is neigbour state of Bosnia.I dont think this is true,but never the less if it is true I wouldnot be suprised.In my country there is neolitian vilage called Starcevo,scientist say that Starcevo were not just a village,they say that Starcevo have realy great borders,something like neolitian country.This is realy cool and they were advanced,but not military advanced:( Nomadic tribes who knows how to make bronze swords have crushed them.Scientist say that Starcevo was the biggest neolitian society in the Europe.

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    The find in Visoko, Bosnia has proponents and opponents. The dig is only some 6 months old, though; so it's very early. Some say that instead of pyramids, however, they might simply be fortified Roman forts, with paved Roman roads to the top. We'll see.

    As for the Starčevo-Körös culture, it is one of the oldest farming cultures in the area. It was probably a part of the huge proto-Indo-European culture which flourished along the Danube and may have had roots in the flooding of the former Black Sea lake, and was later replaced by the more readily defined Vinča culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
    He claims as the Pyramids date between 12000 BC- 500BC
    Wow, he's really going out on a limb there ain't he?


    However, until they've made C14 tests I think it's too early to say anything.
    Take it from me, as someone who works in Analytical Chemistry for a living, don't put too much faith in radiometric dating
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    As has been noted, the proposed timeline of 12,000 - 500 BC helps not a jot.

    On first look, the hill that is supposed to be the pyramid appears to be far, far too big. It would be almost impossible to create a stable structure of that magnitude.

    Having said that, the ingenuity of the ancients has been underestimated before, and I look forward to more evidence. Like a proposed date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi
    Take it from me, as someone who works in Analytical Chemistry for a living, don't put too much faith in radiometric dating
    Radiometric dating is a horses for courses kind of thing. Accurate in the right framework, useless outside of it.

    Carbon dating is one of the least accurate of radiometric dating because of its assumptions on the amount that a living vs dead life form will retain of the isotopes.

    Uranium dating is fairly accurate as a % of the time span looked at.
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    I'm inclined to agree with the critics who don't think this is a real pyramid. But if it's true, then great

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    1 day by car from my location I guess.

    But I have my doubts whether this is a real pyramid. Nevertheless, I still prefer the Egyptian piramids.
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    In spite of my doubts, I am still reminded of the woman in Peru who spent years trying to convince other archaeologists that the regular-looking hills scattered near the coast in a valley in Peru were actually pyramids and buildings. When she finally got funding and permission to excavate, they discovered the lost city of Caral. And the city dates from 3000 BCE, making it contemporary with the first Egyptian pyramid at Saqqara.

    I still have my doubts about the Visoko site; but I'll keep an open mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    In spite of my doubts, I am still reminded of the woman in Peru who spent years trying to convince other archaeologists that the regular-looking hills scattered near the coast in a valley in Peru were actually pyramids and buildings. When she finally got funding and permission to excavate, they discovered the lost city of Caral. And the city dates from 3000 BCE, making it contemporary with the first Egyptian pyramid at Saqqara.

    I still have my doubts about the Visoko site; but I'll keep an open mind.
    Very interesting, I was still under the impression Egypt had the oldest pyramids. One interesting thing is that apart from the pyramids in Egypt, most other pyramids seem covered by vegetation, that's why the Egyptian pyramids were discovered first and given so much credit, while in fact they might not be that unique at all, other than in perhaps size?

    Another interesting thing is that further up north, cultures often made huge heaps of stone which were later covered by vegetation, creating the well-known grave-heaps that exist in many places in Europe. If the vegetation covering pyramids further south was an intentional plan, then these grave-heaps and pyramids would actually pretty much be the same principle - which raises the question why it is a recurring theme. Could it even be possible that the Egyptian pyramids were also covered in vegetation once - after all it's claimed that the Sahara desert was a flourishing forest region some thousand years BC so it isn't completely impossible...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    Very interesting, I was still under the impression Egypt had the oldest pyramids. One interesting thing is that apart from the pyramids in Egypt, most other pyramids seem covered by vegetation, that's why the Egyptian pyramids were discovered first and given so much credit, while in fact they might not be that unique at all, other than in perhaps size?
    Absolutely. Also, Egypt was near to the Europeans and their developing interest in archaeology in the 18th century.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    Could it even be possible that the Egyptian pyramids were also covered in vegetation once - after all it's claimed that the Sahara desert was a flourishing forest region some thousand years BC so it isn't completely impossible...
    Very unlikely. The great pyramids were in fact faced with white marble (and possibly capped with gold) which would have made them a quite amazing sight - but clearly not intended to be hidden with vegetation.

    The Sahara has been a desert for a long time, and was savannah before that. Linky. There was a theory bandied about some years ago by a geologist that the Sphinx showed evidence of water erosion, meaning that it would have had to have been built 10,000 years before the accepted date. Critique. If this were true, the likely conditions for vegetal overgrowth might have existed. But then again, why make the pyramid shine white if it will get covered in mould?
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