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Well, I find it sad that you've chosen to be insulting rather than actually argue in a reasonable manner. I tried to hint that you were stepping over the line. Now you've jumped over with both feet and then stuck them entirely in your mouth to chew vigorously on your toe nails.

Your facts are wrong on all counts, and I can only explain your behavior as you knowing your facts are wrong and you're just overcompensating.

When, exactly, did I mention Mu or Atlantis or this other extraneous crap you're dragging into the insulting tone of your posts? Are you on drugs? If you,are, then I suggest that you check the expiration date on your Thorazine. Are you reading someone else's posts and hallucinating my handle on them? Mu? Really now.

If you're going to be insulting, then you're going to have to eat your medicine when it's shoved back in your face, sport.

The Dorian invasion isn't dated at 1100, it's dated at 1200-1100. Unless you think you were there, in which case I recommend you check the date on the Thorazine again. By the way, 800 isn't set in stone either. It's sometimes 800-750, but I used the generally accepted 1200-800. Nice try.

Yes, the ancient Greeks were not all Dorians. But they all tried to lay claim to being the descendants of earlier peoples, which they weren't. I used Dorians as an example; because they were the matter at hand in the discussion of the Dark Ages. I guess that went over your head. That was the ruffle you felt in your hair. Wasn't wind.

Then we get further on and you finally admit there wasn't a Dorian invasion at all.

You don't really have any grasp at all of the genetic studies, do you? You actually have the gall to say that is not supported by the genetic evidence? Do you even know what SNP markers are? How about haplogroups? Who is out of their league, sport? Best get back up on the porch, puppy. ALL of the genetic studies support the Kurgan hypothesis or something similar. Do you even know what a Kurgan is? How about where the Sredny-Stog culture was located?

By the way, it's Colin Renfrew, not Colin Renphrew. Have you even read his work? He's one of the main proponents for the Anatolian hypothesis for the proto-IndioEuropean language urheimat. It's the competitor for the Kurgan hypothesis. While the Kurgan hypothesis is the more accepted one, the Anatolian version has some (fewer) fans. It's still all about Indo-European. You do know that right? In fact, Renfrew revisited his dating after it was shown that the vocabulary splits he was using occured in the Chalcolithic rather than the Neolithic. His newest dating, done just a couple of years ago puts him much closer in timeline to the Kurgan hypothesis, at 5000 BCE instead of his previous 7000 BCE. In fact, his new dates would actually be supported by a Black Sea Flood, which is proposed for ~5500 BCE. The Kurgan hypothesis, which is the widely accepted dating, puts the split at 4000-4500 BCE. So we're talking a difference of 1000-500 years now between the two main hypotheses. Neither hypothesis puts the split at 2500 BCE. You might want to study a little deeper.


I feel like I've just tried to show my dog a magic trick. The look I get back is priceless; but not very helpful. (To misquote Bill Hicks).


Feel free to continue the discussion when you can do so without being insulting. When you started with the "fairy tale" crap you bit off more than you can handle. When you're finished being insulting and acting like a child, let me know. In the meantime, I've refuted every one of your claims. I did it, at first, calmly; but you decided to up the rhetoric. So now you've gotten a response in kind. When you can play nice, instead of going off like a Roman candle, let us know. Meanwhile, open a few books. Your theories are a good 20 years out of date, at least, and growing more stale by the minute. Learn a little about genomics, a lot more about linguistics, anything at all about dating systems in the chronologies in question and take a pill or two - hopefully Thorazine that hasn't expired.

And I'll end it here, since you've taken things beyond a mere discussion. I do respond in kind. But I don't think it's helpful to keep picking on the underprivileged, so I'll leave you be. I'm sure the mods are unhappy enough as it is.