The trait system is really beginning to grate on my nerves!

**lars573** · 06-02-2006, 15:33

Hmm, looks like I'll be trying that very high taxes thing. Also if you wanted to mod the bad manager traits it would be better to make the checks happen at say every 100,000 to 300k or 250k to 750k or at 1 million to 3 million.

**Kralizec** · 06-02-2006, 16:47

I know Malrubius made a trait mod for 1.2, sadly that's not going to help you. There might be some other trait mods for 1.6, a good place to search would be the Forge.

**gardibolt** · 06-02-2006, 17:31

The original poster said he's playing ERE, which means he's playing BI. The threshold for negative traits coming is was dropped in BI, I think to 12,000d. Since he said he has a 100,000d treasury, it's no wonder his family is full of fools, drunkards and dotards. You can't have that kind of treasury in BI and expect to have any usable family members. I just finished an ERE game, and all of my family was good Romans, each and every one of them. I almost never finished a turn with more than 1000d in the bank. It's too late for this game, but try the ERE again following that rule and see if your family doesn't prove to be better behaved and less like the scions of a wealthy family.

**x-dANGEr** · 06-02-2006, 20:31

11k AFAIK, Gardibolt. Denarii is your problem mate, just get rid of it. (Even though I don't really care about it, I don'tput generals in my cities so what the heck.. My treasury won't affect me..)

**Quillan** · 06-02-2006, 20:35

Wow, that really was a drop. I don't have BI, and my rule is to always spend down to the point where I don't go over 50K even with greater income than anticipated.

**Excalibur Bane** · 06-03-2006, 01:36

So there is absolutely no mods whatsoever to solve this problem? I find it incredible stupid to be punished for having excess denarii to spend. ERE is a big empire, and I tend to be a defensive player. Build everything up to the best that can be built, defend in the meantime, then come out kicking and steamroll everyone else.

Is there no way to just disable the whole system within the game? How would I go about removing all the anti-traits? Or at least the ones that make no damn sense.

As it stands now, I'm getting hammered by the Sarmatians, who bribed one of my best cities and conquered Constantiople from me with their wonderful horde. WRE is sinking every ship I have. The Sassinds are keeping me quite busy trying to finish them off. Most of my cities have no governors at all and my generals are all getting killed off by a super assassin somewhere near Constantinople as I'm trying to bring up forces from Anitoch to pin them down. It's a fine mess.

If I don't find a way to get rid of these traits, I'm shelving it and waiting for MTW 2. I've had about my fill of this non-sense.

**lars573** · 06-03-2006, 15:15

Well most traits are kind of on a line. With 0 being the starting point and the good and bad version being the positive and negative ends on the line. So the bad management are the opposite end of the good management. It's just that good management isn't the anit-trait to bad, so you can have characters with good manager traits and bad at the same time.

And like I said if you add a zero or two to when the checks happens you can have a really fat treasury. So the question is where is it in the traits file that designates where the checks for bad manager start?