Quote Originally Posted by econ21
AFAIK, we did lose [2] moving from MTW to RTW but I think you are being a little misleading on the other points.

Re [1] There is no "disorganised" state per se in TW. But
(a) a strung out formation - eg one pursuing a routing enemy - will tend to do worse than an ordered one, because its men will get into combat piecemeal with a more concentrated opponent
(b) a stationary braced formation can cope with a cavalry charge better than a "disorganised" one.
(3) disorganisation severely hampers phalanxes
(4) the "hold formation" button captures some aspects of being in proper formation - your defence is higher, but your attack is reduced

Re [3] This is wrong because:
(a) the morale penalties to being flanked etc are very severe
(b) individual soldiers have facing and cutting at one's flank or back does increase kill chances (and stops your target striking back until they turn about)

Re [4] Does there need to be a "penalty"? In loose formation, you will get fewer men into contact with an enemy and hence kill less (be killed more) in melee.

Re [5] Are you sure of this? In STW and MTW, wedge raised attack and lowered defence. I would assume it's the same in RTW.
Ogh, I forgot to reply to his first note, but anyway, you seem to have covered it.
Also:
RTW doesnt have a combat penalty for disorganised formations
First, you will lose control of your units, try this:
Go ERE and your friend ERE rebels, you get 10 plumbs and he gets 5 clibs. Now you turn fire at will off, and let his clibs walk through your infantry, look how missed will your infantry be, try to organise them then..

Second, you will be to easy to crush. After doing what I said above, let your friend charge your army with 5 Equite CATAS after it has been dis-organised. All he needs to do is retreat and charge again, till you're done.