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    or you could go to War with them,but you don't want to..

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    btw. If assasins are all you're worried about, build border forts if you can afford them, small one time investment with great pay-off :)
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    It always seemed to me that either all alliances are completely insincere or the MTW AI uses assassins in a way which is completely unconnected from the diplomatic system, since I often find that everyone is out to get me with hired killers even if otherwise they seem to love me. It particularly bothered me that the Pope seemed to have it in for me, despite my attempts to behave as an exemplar of Christian monarchy...

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    Return the favour with your own assassins ... it's called politics, smile at him, help him in war ... and keep trying to stab him in the back.

    You say you married one of your princessess to him ... good, now kill the ruler, and the entire family, every one last of them, grab a bit of territory.

    I play Byzantines too much, I've gotten too used to that kind of politics.

    Oh, and offing the Pope repeatedly is entertaining as hell, plus, it is useful when you've just been excomunicated.

    As for defense ... border forts and spies in your territories help a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keba
    You say you married one of your princessess to him ... good, now kill the ruler, and the entire family, every one last of them, grab a bit of territory.

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    As for defense ... border forts and spies in your territories help a lot.
    Yes ! to both suggestions :)
    I find it's usually not worth the trouble of marrying someone off and then going after their heirs..just going to war frontally is much quicker :).

    And on spies : spies also help to keep your people happy, so their use is double :).

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    Thanks for all your suggestions! BTW, are assassins any good in intercepting enemy assassins, or is it just emissaries?

    Also, if I do get excommunicated, is there any way for to get in the Pope's good graces enough to have this lifted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty
    Thanks for all your suggestions! BTW, are assassins any good in intercepting enemy assassins, or is it just emissaries?
    Assassins can intercept enemy assassins as well. Just make sure you don't have a border fort, though, or it will get the credit for capturing the enemy agent instead of your assassin.

    Also, if I do get excommunicated, is there any way for to get in the Pope's good graces enough to have this lifted?
    Yep. You kill him off, or send your king on a suicide mission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty
    Thanks for all your suggestions! BTW, are assassins any good in intercepting enemy assassins, or is it just emissaries?
    Emissaries do not intercept enemy assassins, other than by sometimes managing to survive an assassination attempt and turning the tables on the attacker. The best way to intercept them are border forts. You can also use spies and assassins. I prefer spies, since they keep a province more loyal, but most people seem to use assassins because they get experience by catching other assassins/spies (provided no border fort is present, like Martok said) and you really need this if you want to use them for assassination missions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antagonist
    It always seemed to me that either all alliances are completely insincere or the MTW AI uses assassins in a way which is completely unconnected from the diplomatic system, since I often find that everyone is out to get me with hired killers even if otherwise they seem to love me. It particularly bothered me that the Pope seemed to have it in for me, despite my attempts to behave as an exemplar of Christian monarchy...
    I think part of the problem is that the A.I. does not realize that its assassins can get caught in your land and tries to send them by the shortest route. They need not necesarily be out for your skin. Also, it's a fool who doesn't gather information on allies as well as enemies.

    On the other hand, in S:TW some faction were very reliable allies and some would stab you in the back just because they had nothing better to do. I presume it is the same in M:TW, only faction personalities change more often.
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