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    Shaidar Haran Senior Member SAM Site Champion Myrddraal's Avatar
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    I'll admit it, before recently I've never paid attention to what happens in the Throne Room, but when I released my MP campaign I posted here and as a result I was drawn to the other threads here, particularly "the will of the senate"

    And I was wondering if the script used for my MP campaign couldn't be used to spice up the traditional PBeM campaigns. For example - Sicily has fallen, the Romans are expanding their power. The carthaginians have been insulted, but will the AI react? Who knows?

    As an experiment, I propose writing a variation on the MP campaign script, which would allow users to control parts of what the AI does. I would leave to majority of the work to the AI, but if you are willing, I would be able to send you messages from Carthaginian diplomats, more complex treaties, threats and ultimatums, which would be carried out etc etc.

    I haven't really explained this very well, but I hope you get the idea. Would you be willing to try this, as a test?
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    Default Re: "spicing up" traditional PBeM campaigns

    Im very intrigued. But youre right when you said that you didnt explain very well. Please try to explain in more detail.

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    I think this is best explained by an example:

    This is an example and not part of the "Will of the Senate" PBeM campaign. (yet )

    Senators, a diplomat of Carthage has arrived on our shores bearing the following message:

    As if the execution of your spies in our lands were not warning enough for you to keep check on your over ambitious policies, you then furthered your insults to Carthage by daring to invade our homelands. In the ensuing battles, you men savaged a noble man, King Hanno.

    Such actions will not be tolerated. A battle has ended, but the war has merely begun. Now you surely realise the gravity of your errors. Barbarians come down on your undefended borders whilst the populace of Sicily, loyal to their people, shall cause unrest in the lands you have savaged.

    There is no reason why your fate should be unknown to you. Like the barbarians you are, you have acted rashly; depending on the brute force of your armies to expand without considering the consequences. You shall pay the price for this with the starvation of your children. Our fleets are ready to launch an overwhelming attack on the scattered fishing boats you call a navy. No trade shall pass through your ports without carthaginian approval, no military or civil vessel will dock on Roman lands again. With only enemies bordering you directly, your nation will receive no trade, no customs, and no riches. Your cities will fall to disorder, your people will sleep in squalor.

    You are nothing more than barbarians, and barbaric actions are what we expect of you, you surely did not consider the fate of your nation when you tested your own military strength. If you can see sense now, we shall be merciful. Only one course of action will compensate your actions and the death of our ruler. This is our ultimatum:

    You shall leave sicily and hand control to our generals
    For five years you shall limit the size of your military navy to no more than 4 vessels.
    You shall pay Carthage the sum of 3000 florins.

    We have no intention of negotiating this matter. If you think we are being overly harsh, consider the future you will leave your people with.

    Carthage expects your reply within 3 weeks - any delay will seal your nations tomb.


    And - simply put, I can make this happen.
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    How is that possible? How can you get the AI to enforce such a threat? What new form of wizardry is this?

    Very impressive example but I want to know how its at all possible. This seems way too good to be true.

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    There are two ways I could force the AI to do these things.

    One is to write a very simple script that moves the fleets for it (this method is slightly more complicated for me)

    The second method is to use the work I've already done. The Multiplayer campaign script I've got hands over control of another nation to the player and disables that nations AI. It is possible to do one without the other.

    Just before ending one of your turns, you send me the savegame, I take over carthage, move her fleets and leave the rest to the AI. Then I hand back control to the Romans and you play on. (I'd probably have to do this for a few turns to make sure the AI doesn't move it's fleets away)

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    Default Re: "spicing up" traditional PBeM campaigns

    I must admit, that sounds amazing.

    If you could somehow make it so that it's multiplayer campaigns and battles, I shall proclaim you God.
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    Sounds good. If they implemented this into Will of the Senate and allowed other people to play other factions (as soon as they come into contact with the romans) it could make the game very interesting.
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