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    Default Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    I was playing sassanids in BI and i used alexanders tactics to win. But heres the question, I used camels in the tactic but half of them die from like half of the enemy infantry. Are they good to have in an army? thanks

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    Default Re: Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    Good against heavily armored cav (YOu can't kill them, rout them).
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    Default Re: Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    They scare horses, so yes, they are a good unit for your armies. They are also very fast.

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    Default Re: Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    They're good yes, but they make rude noises and spit at your troops when your back is turned, so be wary!
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    Default Re: Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    Are camels a good unit to have in army?
    Where is Mithrandir when you need him !

    To the point:

    Camels are great in Arid regions ( deserts ) but lack the charge power a regular unit of cavalry has.

    Camels are good to have in your army if you're planning on facing horse based enemies. Camels get a combat bonus against horses, and are an effective anti-cav unit. Keep in mind though, prolonged melee is never good for a mounted unit, and it most certainly isn't for a camel unit - armoured or not.

    Best thing to do is take a couple of Camels ( about 3 ) in your army, then concentrate them on the enemy (cav) bodyguard, when the latter is engaged in battle.

    Camels aren;t the best units, even against horses, and thus they suffer even head on against the better cav. units you might see later in the game.
    So if you do wish to use camels, bring on a few of them and concentrate on one enemy cav. unit for best effect.

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    Default Re: Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    They good in Deserts and Such,and yes,they scare Horsers,but I don't think they be good against Clibs (ERE Clbis or Sassdian Clibs)..

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    Default Re: Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
    Where is Mithrandir when you need him !
    Here I am! :)
    I can only speak for MTW VI, but if camels are anything in RTW like they were in MTW, you're ok with my advice...

    Camels are great in Arid regions ( deserts ) but lack the charge power a regular unit of cavalry has.

    Camels are good to have in your army if you're planning on facing horse based enemies. Camels get a combat bonus against horses, and are an effective anti-cav unit.
    True,though the lower charge is no problem.

    Keep in mind though, prolonged melee is never good for a mounted unit, and it most certainly isn't for a camel unit - armoured or not.
    Unless you pit you camels vs cavelry, then there's no problem.
    Best thing to do is take a couple of Camels ( about 3 ) in your army, then concentrate them on the enemy (cav) bodyguard, when the latter is engaged in battle.
    Depends on your style, I used to take 4 or 5 units of camels ,seeing how they could very well rout enemy cav within a few minutes, after which you had a very decent melee unit left for encircling the enemy.
    Camels aren;t the best units, even against horses, and thus they suffer even head on against the better cav. units you might see later in the game.
    So if you do wish to use camels, bring on a few of them and concentrate on one enemy cav. unit for best effect.
    I always liked you and respected your posts...until now...

    There is no better unit than camels!

    seriously, back in the ol' days with my almohad army, none stood up to them, I had them at Valour 3 (cheaper than v0 lancers I think) and they never lost to another melee cav unit, arid,desert or even lush terrain. Just make sure your camels face off vs cav and don;t get too much morale penalties.

    My strategy was usually very dependent upon camels : have strong infantry (AUM&militia sergs V3 / V4 on 15k) holding&killing the enemy infantry,at least 3 very well armoured pav arbs, or other shooters to make sure the enemy has to appraoch and pitted my camels vs the cav, while the melee was going on, the cav on the flanks were seen off by my camels, which would then charge the infantry in the back..

    Almost a fail proof plan, only when the enemy outguns you and has horse archers it may prove to be difficult...
    Couldn't agree more :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
    Where is Mithrandir when you need him !

    To the point:

    Camels are great in Arid regions ( deserts ) but lack the charge power a regular unit of cavalry has.

    Camels are good to have in your army if you're planning on facing horse based enemies. Camels get a combat bonus against horses, and are an effective anti-cav unit. Keep in mind though, prolonged melee is never good for a mounted unit, and it most certainly isn't for a camel unit - armoured or not.

    Best thing to do is take a couple of Camels ( about 3 ) in your army, then concentrate them on the enemy (cav) bodyguard, when the latter is engaged in battle.

    Camels aren;t the best units, even against horses, and thus they suffer even head on against the better cav. units you might see later in the game.
    So if you do wish to use camels, bring on a few of them and concentrate on one enemy cav. unit for best effect.

    Camels in RTW/BI aren't effective alone (Maybe in RTW, because they are the strongest cav their too), the main tactic in BI is to hold with good cav and flank with camels. Just for their morale factor, and attacking from the back kind of diverts the enemy's cav killing power off them.
    "Cry, the beloved country, for the unborn child that is the inheritor of our fear. Let him not love the earth too deeply. Let him not laugh too gladly when the water runs through his fingers, nor stand too silent when the setting sun makes red the veld with fire. Let him not be moved when the birds of his land are singing, nor give too much of his heart to a mountain or a valley. For fear will rob him of all if he gives too much."

    Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton.

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    Default Re: Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    yes they are better units, especially against horses

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    Default Re: Are camels a good unit to have in army?

    Ludens answered you question quite thoroughly

    There is no difference in stats, unless a certain province adds a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir
    There is no difference in stats, unless a certain province adds a bonus.
    Bedouin camel warriors * Charge 6 Attack 2 Defence 0 Armour 2 Speed 9, 14, 16 Morale 0 Cost 125 Support cost 40
    Berber camels * * * * * Charge 2 Attack 0 Defence 0 Armour 2 Speed 9, 14, 16 Morale 0 Cost 300 Support cost 30

    You can get a valour bonus for Berbers in Morocco (the crusader_production file also says Algeria, but valour bonuses are apparently only awarded in the first province the file mentions). Bedouin warriors do not get a valour bonus in any province.
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