A lot of slowdowns recently

**naut** · 06-12-2006, 13:52

I don't know about deleting the backroom, but yes it is very slow. I got the hugest lag loading the backroom or getting to a different location from the backroom.

**therother** · 06-12-2006, 15:51

If the OT forums are impairing performance, then IMO they should be pruned. I can't really see a downside to this: the Backroom has been pruned before, mostly without ill effect. AFAICT, topics over 3-4 weeks old are rarely worth keeping online, and Kukri can keep a local copy should anyone need something from the offline posts.

Even if they aren't impairing performance, it might be worthwhile pruning the Tavern every couple of months or so anyway. We are up to almost a million online posts now, a quarter of them in the Tavern. "Million post" forums are considered pretty large, even for dedicated hardware, and can be quite troublesome. Especially with M2:TW coming out in the coming months, which will probably have an accompanying influx of new and returning Members adding to the strain.

**Severous** · 06-12-2006, 22:50

I dont go to the off topic parts of the forum...except in this case to follow a link to here about the lag.

I have had slow downs like everyone else. I have been so unable to post on occasion that Ive given up and posted on one of the other forums I follow.

Ive posted many thumbnails onto this forum. PbM Carthage and Selucid campaigns for instance. If people are looking through those now very long threads, which contain lots of big bitmaps from other posters, would that slow down the service ?

**naut** · 06-13-2006, 10:09

Originally Posted by therother

If the OT forums are impairing performance, then IMO they should be pruned.

I agree. Some of the threads are rather useless if they have been inactive for more than 3 weeks.

Originally Posted by Severous

which contain lots of big bitmaps from other posters

I HATE BITMAPS!!! They are so annoying, please JPEGs rule so use them.

**doc_bean** · 06-13-2006, 11:49

I think everyone calling for the closure of the tavern is evil

It's the reason half the people come here !

**naut** · 06-13-2006, 12:32

Originally Posted by doc_bean

I think everyone calling for the closure of the tavern is evil

It's the reason half the people come here !

Not deleted, but cleaned out. Like Spring Cleaning.

**Mount Suribachi** · 06-13-2006, 13:31

Originally Posted by doc_bean

I think everyone calling for the closure of the tavern is evil

It's the reason half the people come here !

It also has the least to do with TW gaming, causes the admins the most problems, generates the most bad feeling between members and occupies more of the Orgs storage and bandwidth than any other sub-forum.

And lets be honest, there's only about a dozen topics that people discuss anyway, and they all end up being an argument about whether its all America's fault or not

**Mikeus Caesar** · 06-13-2006, 17:12

Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

It also has the least to do with TW gaming, causes the admins the most problems, generates the most bad feeling between members and occupies more of the Orgs storage and bandwidth than any other sub-forum.

And lets be honest, there's only about a dozen topics that people discuss anyway, and they all end up being an argument about whether its all America's fault or not

Look, the tavern is great. Without the tavern, me and countless other old members would probably have left the .Org a loooooong time ago.

Don't delete it, just prune it. Delete all topics over 1 month old.

In every subforum.

**doc_bean** · 06-14-2006, 09:35

First off I'd like to point out that i was never against cleaning out the tavern (well, it would be a little sad...) but certain people were really calling for its closure.

Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

It also has the least to do with TW gaming, causes the admins the most problems, generates the most bad feeling between members and occupies more of the Orgs storage and bandwidth than any other sub-forum.

And lets be honest, there's only about a dozen topics that people discuss anyway, and they all end up being an argument about whether its all America's fault or not

How many people visit the entrance hall regularly ? I mean it's a good forum and it certainly has its purpose, but there are less than ten topics answered since yesterday. The guides, well, you could just post them on a site like gamefaqs, the awards, probably no one looked at them in a while, the colosseum ? Less than ten threads with answers since yesterday, two of them being forum games and i'm just going to stop here because otherwise people might be thinking I don't like this place

My point is, this is a forum dedicated to a couple of games (3 released, one coming and a barely used subforum about another) I like TW games, I might even dust off RTW once in a while, but talking about your favourite unit time and time again does get old quickly. The tavern offers something to do when you're tired of arguing why camels are better than horses for the nth time. Without the tavern a lot of us wouldn't frequent this forum anymore. I regularly check on the other forums, but would I still do this, still come here if it weren't for the tavern ? Probably after MTWII is released, yes, but not in the mean time.

And bad feelings between members ? I rarely noticed those, sure some people get on eachothers nerves, as people are bound to do, but for all the arguing going on, most people seem to at least have a basic respect for the 'opponent'. And let's be honest, the Org is by many considered a community of friends, a lot of people have posted stuff here they probably wouldn't put on the internet otherwise, personal stuff. Do you really think such a bound can come to be if we'd just be discussing games ?

EDIT: this rant isn't directed at anyone in particular, I'm not looking to pick a fight or anything, I just wanted to point out why I think the tavern is an essential part of the Org