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    doom and gloom as reported in the Sun with big pages and no tits (Times of London):

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...0267_1,00.html

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    That certainly is the Worst Case Scenario.

    Measures could easily be put in place to prevent such things. Sure, we now have low cost flights, but if such a problem arose they could be curtailed.

    Every time immigrants come to another country it is the end of the world. Be it the French, the Dutch, the Jews, the Carribeans or whatever. All were somehow going to destroy the UK.

    Barbaray pirates? A few small ships is not going to bring Europe to its knees. The Yacht sailing minority I am less concerned about. Perhaps they could pleasure cruise elsewhere?

    Worst case scenario for those that think Africa is about to destroy the enirety of Europe:

    Flights are reduced, ticket prices are increased and people are checked thoroughly, and deported very quickly (next plane).
    Police the north coast of Africa to a depth of a mile or so. No more boats!

    Come on! We're Anglo-Saxons! Historially from Saxony or supposed to be. Britain has always been a "mongrel race". Sure, we might the country might be altered by immigrants, but isn't that always the way the world changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
    doom and gloom as reported in the Sun with big pages and no tits (Times of London):

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...0267_1,00.html
    That Rear Admiral is clearly wearing his head up his military rank.

    Boy, am I weary of all the implausible doom scenarios we hear; British and American commentators predicting the demise of the EU, continental Europeans revelling in unreal visions of the downfall of the United States. These days, when I spot the words 'Roman Empire' in an article on the U.S. or EU, I stop reading.
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    Parry, head of the development, concepts and doctrine centre at the Ministry of Defence, is charged with identifying the greatest challenges that will frame national security policy in the future
    To be fair, its his job to think up the worst case scenarios. As reported by the Times, nothing in what he was saying seemed at all impossible, indeed it all seems fairly reasonable. Its not his job to predict the most likely future, its his job to try to prepare for the worst possible one.

    Indeed, in some respects the situation is worse than he seems to be suggesting. The article posits a large gender imbalance in thrid world countries as a destablising factor, but the age imbalance that we already know will unquestionably happen is likely to be just as destabalising without the need to imagine any one family-one child policies.

    Average age in the UK today: 39.3, 17.5% under 15
    Average age in Italy today, 42.2, 13.8% under 15

    Average age in Iran today: 24.8, 26% under 15

    And so on. Go...figure...
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    Average age in the UK today: 39.3, 17.5% under 15
    Average age in Italy today, 42.2, 13.8% under 15

    Average age in Iran today: 24.8, 26% under 15

    And so on. Go...figure...

    Go figure???? Iran had a bloody big war where human waves were sent off with the keys to heaven , that does tend to have a bit of an impact on certain age groups .

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    My bad.

    Average age in Pakistan today: 19.8, 39% under 15

    Average age in Morrocco today: 23.9 31.6% under 15

    Average age in Turkmenistan today: 21.8, 35.2% under 15

    I could go on...
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    Don´t many of these countries have a comparatively low life-expectancy anyway?
    What does the average age tell us? I already knew we Europeans have too few children, but I am not sure whether that will be our destruction. We could just stop immigration anyway and throw any troublemakers out, some people shouldn´t be here anymore anyway, and while we´re at it, do not forget about Nazis and the likes, we have no use for them either.


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    I suppose this is the sort of stuff that inspires Parry:

    PARIS, France (AP) -- A court on Wednesday convicted 25 people for their roles in preparing an attack in France in support of Islamic fighters in Chechnya.

    All but one defendant had been accused of helping Islamic fighters in Chechnya in what prosecutors said underscored the "globalization of the jihad movement."

    The network was dismantled in two waves, the first in December 2002 as investigators stormed two houses in the Paris suburb of La Courneuve and the nearby town of Romainville. They found gas canisters, fuses, chemicals and a suit to protect against chemical attacks.

    Prosecutor Anne Kostomaroff, profiling the network, put the origins of the group in Chlef, Algeria, in 1999, where eight members had refused an Algerian government amnesty plan for Islamic insurgents in the North African country. Various members then traveled to Spain, France, Italy and the border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan, while a core group formed in the Paris region in late 2000 to create a support ring for Islamic militants in the war-ravaged Russian republic of Chechnya.

    However, the Benchellali family has long been established in Lyon. Imam Benchellali is known to have occasionally used his makeshift mosque on the ground floor of a high-rise building to collect funds for Islamic fighters in Chechnya.
    The usual stuff. Imams preaching hatred and terror in western mosques, established immigrants and fresh recruits plotting chemical attacks, instable Islamic regimes at the root of it all.

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