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    Ahh, there is no book of Enoch
    Typical , someone who claims to follow scriptures teachings but doesn't know scripture . tyical creationist
    You really are stuck at a crossroads aren't you crossroads .

    Now young man , would you care to reference the passage from the bible where it says murder is OK ?
    Hmmmmm....is the reply the sound of silence from someone who is pushing scripture but doesn't know scripture ?????
    Hey Bubba , its your topic , you bought it up , just like it is bought up every couple of weeks .
    So have you any idea what you are on about , or is it just links to numerous sites that have already been shown to be bullshit ?
    Last edited by Tribesman; 06-17-2006 at 00:26.

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    Genesis 5:18-24 [18] Jared lived one hundred and sixty-two years, and begot Enoch. [19] After he begot Enoch, Jared lived eight hundred years, and had sons and daughters. [20] So all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years; and he died. [21] Enoch lived sixty-five years, and begot Methuselah. [22] After he begot Methuselah, Enoch walked with God three hundred years, and had sons and daughters. [23] So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. [24] And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.
    Bloody hell, So all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years, some health system they had in the early bronze age. That's it, I'm gonna sign up to this.

    If I lived that long I'd bankrupt uncle Tonys utopia. Now there's a reason to lose my rationale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    Bloody hell, So all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years, some health system they had in the early bronze age. That's it, I'm gonna sign up to this.

    If I lived that long I'd bankrupt uncle Tonys utopia. Now there's a reason to lose my rationale.
    The earth was more like a green house at that time, before the world wide flood. More oxygen and carbon dioxide and a possible canopy of water vapor in the earth's outer atmosphere would have protected people from much of the sun's radiation. The conditions of the atmosphere became much harsher after the flood and significantly shortened life spans.
    http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...0/i4/years.asp
    http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=...n=view&page=54
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossroad
    The earth was more like a green house at that time, before the world wide flood. More oxygen and carbon dioxide and a possible canopy of water vapor in the earth's outer atmosphere would have protected people from much of the sun's radiation. The conditions of the atmosphere became much harsher after the flood and significantly shortened life spans.
    http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...0/i4/years.asp
    http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=...n=view&page=54
    So why on earth would Mister Noah live for quite a bit longer than any of us live.. after the flood? Also, UV radiation causes skin cancer. Not every old person dies from skin cancer, or, as you imply from the claim of abundant oxygen and carbon dioxide, from suffocation or cold. The cells begin to stop dividing after a certain point, and the human gets older and eventually stops functioning and so dies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossroad
    The earth was more like a green house at that time, before the world wide flood. More oxygen and carbon dioxide and a possible canopy of water vapor in the earth's outer atmosphere would have protected people from much of the sun's radiation. The conditions of the atmosphere became much harsher after the flood and significantly shortened life spans.
    This kind of rampant nonsense should convince everyone arguing with crossroad to drop the bone. He is unable to understand your arguments because his personal paradigm is utterly different from yours. He lives in a world of utter certainty and mediaeval fantasy, where thought is heretical.

    And in a last post (as pointless as a broken pencil) I give you the most recent transitional fossil. Not billions of examples, I'm afraid, just the one. Enjoy and dismiss as appropriate.

    (Oh, and DA, nice try but the bible is a story - a bunch of myths collected in the middle east. Why on God's Green Earth do it's pretty tales have more relevance to reality than the Dreamtime of the Australian aborigines - stories that are at least 30,000 years older? Or any other myth? Why do you accept biblical pre-eminence just because it's familiar to you?)

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    And for God's sake: which Bible? The Catholic one, King James or New international? That's three.

    Then if you consider who make the bible (a man) isn't there a good chance that the other books are just as holy? When the central plank of religious fevor es examined even for a moment it is clearly rotten to the core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
    And for God's sake: which Bible? The Catholic one, King James or New international? That's three.

    Then if you consider who make the bible (a man) isn't there a god chance that the other books are just as holy? When the bentral plank of religious fevour es examined even for a moment it is clearly wrotten to the core.

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    There is no book of Enoch in the Bible. It was removed from Scriptures by the Sanhedrin in 90AD.

    Oh , I see
    So this book that gives you all the answers has had bits taken away from it , whodathunkit .
    So your arguement for creation is based on a heavily altered , heavily edited multiply mistranslated document .

    The silence comes as a result of loaded questions.
    perhaps you should have remained silent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    There is no book of Enoch in the Bible. It was removed from Scriptures by the Sanhedrin in 90AD.

    Oh , I see
    So this book that gives you all the answers has had bits taken away from it , whodathunkit .
    So your arguement for creation is based on a heavily altered , heavily edited multiply mistranslated document .

    The silence comes as a result of loaded questions.
    perhaps you should have remained silent
    Let me educate you on how the Bible came about. Although the details are some what sketchy, depening on who you talk to, The earliest Christian canon is dated to around 100 AD, and at the time did not include the New Testament. The Bible is actually a compilation of books that early Christians found inspiring in worship and teaching and was not canonized until around 397 AD. So, the Bible did not exist as the Bible until the 4th century. The books you speak of that were omited (BTW, there are thousands of writings that are not in the Bible) say nothing about creation, so I'm not sure what that has to do with the subject (other than more rantings from grasping-at-straws evolutionists).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

    (Oh, and DA, nice try but the bible is a story - a bunch of myths collected in the middle east. Why on God's Green Earth do it's pretty tales have more relevance to reality than the Dreamtime of the Australian aborigines - stories that are at least 30,000 years older? Or any other myth? Why do you accept biblical pre-eminence just because it's familiar to you?)
    What are you talking about? I am not trying to say that the bible is factual- only that there are themes in all major religions that closely match what science has discovered today.

    I absolutely do not accept the Torah as anything more than equal to every single other major religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Ahh, there is no book of Enoch
    Typical , someone who claims to follow scriptures teachings but doesn't know scripture . tyical creationist
    You really are stuck at a crossroads aren't you crossroads
    There is no book of Enoch in the Bible. It was removed from Scriptures by the Sanhedrin in 90AD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Now young man , would you care to reference the passage from the bible where it says murder is OK ?
    Hmmmmm....is the reply the sound of silence from someone who is pushing scripture but doesn't know scripture ?????
    Hey Bubba , its your topic , you bought it up , just like it is bought up every couple of weeks .
    So have you any idea what you are on about , or is it just links to numerous sites that have already been shown to be bullshit ?
    The silence comes as a result of loaded questions. If you knew anything about being a Christian, you would know the answers you are seeking.
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