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    See? Much simpler with trying to shoehorn science to fit the facts.
    Dont you mean the "facts"... ;)
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    No, the bible said God was going to flood the earth. Very different thing.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    As saline fish cannot (without one or two exceptions) survive in fresh water and fresh water fish are certainly doomed in a saline environment, can you answer this.

    How exactly did these innocent creatures offend the Almighty? (Unless they had been inadvertently fed to the denizens of Sodom and Gomorrah ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    ...can you answer this.

    How exactly did these innocent creatures offend the Almighty? (Unless they had been inadvertently fed to the denizens of Sodom and Gomorrah ).
    God created them, He can certainly destroy them. Innocence has nothing to do with it.
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    And yet, nothing about your own beliefs.
    So you wish to avoid the questions I have asked , no surprise there really , crossroad wishes to do the same .
    Each question has been relevant to this discussion , yet because you do not like the possible answers you try to pass them as simple ridicule .
    That is probably because attempting to take an ancient , yet heavily edited , mistranslated document and attempting to interpret it literally , or even worse , to attempt to fit scientific theories and findings to the document is a ridiculous premise .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    And yet, nothing about your own beliefs.
    So you wish to avoid the questions I have asked , no surprise there really , crossroad wishes to do the same .
    Each question has been relevant to this discussion , yet because you do not like the possible answers you try to pass them as simple ridicule .
    That is probably because attempting to take an ancient , yet heavily edited , mistranslated document and attempting to interpret it literally , or even worse , to attempt to fit scientific theories and findings to the document is a ridiculous premise .
    There is a difference in asking questions honestly, and asking questions mockingly. Also, 100% of that post was knocking down the bible and the people defending it! There's also a difference between asking questions for the fun of it, and trying to gain some knowledge. And YOU are avoiding the fact that you don't say a darn thing about your own beliefs, and you constantly insist on bashing ours.

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    Awww poor little boy doesn't want to play anymore , boohoo, whassup cross , are you stuck with the science of the rainbow ?
    stuck with the insects , stuck with shipbuilding , stuck with the pitch , stuck with food , stuck with amphibians , stuck with excrement .
    Tell you what , to make it easy , you are even stuck with simple arithmetic, you posted figures from a widely discredited source that don't add up .
    But thats no surprise as you get all your information from widely discredited websites .

    Oh and nice to see that yet again you have shown your ignorance of scripture .
    Now that is strange from someone who is pushing a scriptural account of the earth .


    Talk about make it up as you go along.

    Creationism , the realm of the feeble minded of little faith .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Awww poor little boy doesn't want to play anymore , boohoo, whassup cross , are you stuck with the science of the rainbow ?
    stuck with the insects , stuck with shipbuilding , stuck with the pitch , stuck with food , stuck with amphibians , stuck with excrement .
    Tell you what , to make it easy , you are even stuck with simple arithmetic, you posted figures from a widely discredited source that don't add up .
    But thats no surprise as you get all your information from widely discredited websites .

    Oh and nice to see that yet again you have shown your ignorance of scripture .
    Now that is strange from someone who is pushing a scriptural account of the earth .


    Talk about make it up as you go along.

    Creationism , the realm of the feeble minded of little faith .
    Like I said, all you do is ridicule. And your worth here smaller then a mustard seed.

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    Darwin refused to discuss his own beliefs about a supreme being in public, once writing to his friend Asa Gray, "I feel most deeply that the whole subject is too profound for human intellect. A dog might as well speculate on the mind of Newton."
    Maybe those individuals in this discussion should ponder on that for a while, versus resorting to ad hominem arguements.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Like I said, all you do is ridicule.
    When the position being taken is ridiculous , when the poster continually contradicts himself , avoids questions and issues that completely undermine his point that he has carefully taken from crap websites , when he shown an ignorance of the very scriptures that he is claiming to be taking as a basis for his position then there is nothing to do other than ridicule .


    And your worth here smaller then a mustard seed.
    Silly little boy

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    Personal attacks are going to summon the moderators... Let's play nice

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
    Let's play nice
    Indeed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    When the position being taken is ridiculous , when the poster continually contradicts himself , avoids questions and issues that completely undermine his point that he has carefully taken from crap websites , when he shown an ignorance of the very scriptures that he is claiming to be taking as a basis for his position then there is nothing to do other than ridicule .
    And still your views aren't backed by anything you say. Still you only ridicule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Silly little boy
    Still ridiculing, eh? You have no life, as everyone here can see from your 4,800 posts!

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    Personal attacks (contrary to evidence ) are not allowed. Flame wars help no one and detract from the (generally) nice atmosphere.

    Lead by example, turn the other cheek

    So more , less

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Awww poor little boy doesn't want to play anymore , boohoo, whassup cross , are you stuck with the science of the rainbow ?
    stuck with the insects , stuck with shipbuilding , stuck with the pitch , stuck with food , stuck with amphibians , stuck with excrement .
    Tell you what , to make it easy , you are even stuck with simple arithmetic, you posted figures from a widely discredited source that don't add up .
    But thats no surprise as you get all your information from widely discredited websites .

    Oh and nice to see that yet again you have shown your ignorance of scripture .
    Now that is strange from someone who is pushing a scriptural account of the earth .


    Talk about make it up as you go along.

    Creationism , the realm of the feeble minded of little faith .
    Have you listened to yourself? What, are you twelve? Zain, you are right.
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    Where is a dancing lock smiley when you need one...
    Abandon all hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir
    Where is a dancing lock smiley when you need one...
    And you would lock this why? Because we're trying to knock some sense into someone who doesn't do anything but ridicule, and who doesn't contribute to the conversation in anyway, but sits on the sidelines until he feels he can strike?

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    Personal attacks are not allowed.
    A thread which is merely people accusing each other is again not allowed.
    A thread that is failing to cover any new ground is also usually locked.
    No one is knocking sense into anyone. After 10 pages that in itself would give a mod "due cause"

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

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    What odd documented miracle? Please explain.
    John Cox, a friend of mine, became forever convinced when he accidentally stuck his hand in a blender. Needless to say, the blender mangled his fingers, blood began to pour. His father immediately wrapped his hand in a towel and prayed for him. In the process of going to the hospital, they discovered that John had no cuts on his hand whatsoever, no blood pouring, no mangled fingers. Miracle? Why not? There are plenty of examples out there.
    prove it.
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    Because we're trying to knock some sense into someone who doesn't do anything but ridicule, and who doesn't contribute to the conversation in anyway, but sits on the sidelines until he feels he can strike?
    Still no answers then .
    Come on surely you can explain the rainbow .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zain
    And you would lock this why? Because we're trying to knock some sense into someone who doesn't do anything but ridicule, and who doesn't contribute to the conversation in anyway, but sits on the sidelines until he feels he can strike?
    Everything is right except for the part of "sense" and "rediculing". You're not trying to "knock" some sense, but the opposite, Tribesman is for one a more informed person and older than you, perhaps when you and crossroad read a little more will realize that the debate in itself if for weak minded people or with a weak faith. You need to get some sense of reality and logics, some sense of religion and science, and then perhaps you'll not even have the necessity to fall in the redicule or in pointless discussions as this one. On the other hand what is ridicule here is not you, but creationism in itself, and so everyone who adopts that "theory" and defends it could be treated as an ignorant by its very definition.
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