The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II

**TinCow** · 06-20-2006, 12:22

Ideally I would like to see voting blocs start to form... certain Senators supporting each other over the long-term and gaining votes by providing 'benefits' to independants. We can all beat this game on VH/VH while at war with everybody, so the challenge isn't in expanding Rome. I think the reason this is going so well is that we're pretending to be the Senate itself. There's only limited potential in a discussion that is designed only to figure out who will play next and which territories to conquer. There's unlimited potential if people treat their characters as Roman patricians whose actions are highly centered in their own personal motives and best interests. Personally, I would love to get a 'hooting' avatar next time. I would write some very interesting stuff and trust me, you'd love the motions I would propose!

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 06-20-2006, 14:27

This is what a real Ceasar should have as a trait :

For myself only one trait would do :

I'm in the 'Peace/Balance of Power' Bloc myself, at least with this character. A better name would be 'The Conservative Bloc'.

By the way, in my M/VH campaign I have an alliance with almost everyone and diplomacy 'works' a lot better. Perhaps just a bit too easy. Perhaps H/VH (or H/M or whatever) would be a better choice for tWotS II : Revenge of the Republic. Then alliance proposals would have some meaning.
Then again, in my VH/VH campaign, at the end when I was the only remaining superpower other nations gave in out of sheer awe (and 20-50K dinari).

EDIT : If we really want to we could lower the campaign difficulty by editing the savegame using a tool like RomeSage.

**Mount Suribachi** · 06-20-2006, 15:51

Hehe, we are the Boni DDW

As for campaign difficulty, the settings I find majorly sucky. At Medium you can actually get alliances, trade maps etc and Naval Battles are reasonably balanced (still with a slight favour to the AI IMO). On H & VH diplomacy just becomes ridiculous, with the AI demanding outrageous compensation for the slightest favour - even if it benefits them. And don't even get me started on Naval battles.....

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 06-20-2006, 16:23

Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

Hehe, we are the Boni DDW

Good thinking, shall we call ourselves the Optimates or the Boni ?

**TinCow** · 06-20-2006, 23:24

Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds

This is what a real Ceasar should have as a trait :

LOL, that would certainly make Senate speeches more... colorful.

**Glaucus** · 06-20-2006, 23:32

haha, does anyone know any latin swears?

**TinCow** · 06-20-2006, 23:37

Originally Posted by Glaucus

haha, does anyone know any latin swears?

Would this do?

On a semi-related topic, I'm at around 250BC in a SP game I'm playing with the same mods. My current new crop of family members has massive trait bug problems with people coming of age with stuff like Former General and Military Service - 16 Years in addition to tons of random traits. We are definitely going to start encountering this, particularly with the current slew of underage males. I would like to propose that we keep track of the most unrealistic traits and remove their impact on character influence for voting purposes. If we agree to this, I'll make a note on the Bio of all members with clearly buggy traits that indicates what their influence adjustment should be.

**Avicenna** · 06-21-2006, 07:54

I know one insult:

stultissimus es!

Means 'you are the stupidest!'

Note: there aren't meant to be capitals, which is what lots and lots and lots of people get wrong with latin. Only proper nouns are capitalised.

**Mount Suribachi** · 06-21-2006, 08:08

Originally Posted by TinCow

On a semi-related topic, I'm at around 250BC in a SP game I'm playing with the same mods. My current new crop of family members has massive trait bug problems with people coming of age with stuff like Former General and Military Service - 16 Years in addition to tons of random traits. We are definitely going to start encountering this, particularly with the current slew of underage males. I would like to propose that we keep track of the most unrealistic traits and remove their impact on character influence for voting purposes. If we agree to this, I'll make a note on the Bio of all members with clearly buggy traits that indicates what their influence adjustment should be.

Can you not just edit stuff somewhere to remove unwanted traits?

(I have no idea about these things btw, but it seems like the kind of thing you could edit)

Originally Posted by DDW

Good thinking, shall we call ourselves the Optimates or the Boni ?

Thing is, I think Cato the Younger was a complete &(^%$^^&$ who was almost single-handedly responsible for the civil war that led to the downfall of the Republic, yet here I am advocating much of his policy....

**econ21** · 06-21-2006, 08:18

Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

Can you not just edit stuff somewhere to remove unwanted traits?

TinCow, I wonder if you could post your latest solo game save? Then I could download it and look at the buggy traits. I'm not a modder, but if we can identify triggers, there might be something we can do - e.g. disabling "like his father" trait or something. Marcus Camillus seems preoccupied with the next version of Platinum and may not provide a solution in time.

**Mount Suribachi** · 06-21-2006, 08:02

Originally Posted by Glaucus

haha, does anyone know any latin swears?

Hehe, you need to read The Masters Of Rome Series

Some of them are so obvious & strong that I'll probably get in trouble. But an obvious one that might not would be fellator for a man, or fellatrix for a woman.