The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II

**econ21** · 06-24-2006, 16:00

Quintus is now an ex-Consul because he is governor of Apollonia. Spend two seasons in a settlement and you lose the Roman command traits, becoming ex-whatever.

I agree as a general guideline that a more passive posting is suitable for the first 5 years after being a First Consul, to simulate them stepping down. I would not want to make it permanent though.

Don't worry about giving Quintus an office - he is not long for this world. But TinCow can feel free to assign the other to offices to himself and DDW in lieu of the ancillaries we voted for them.

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 06-24-2006, 16:41

Originally Posted by econ21

Don't worry about giving Quintus an office - he is not long for this world. But TinCow can feel free to assign the other to offices to himself and DDW in lieu of the ancillaries we voted for them.

I disagree. You have done more for this PBeM than TinCow or me and it would feel wrong for me if you were not awarded with something also. If not Quintus, then your next character. Besides, I think it would be pretty neat to have an official Pontifex Maximus

**econ21** · 06-24-2006, 17:11

Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds

If not Quintus, then your next character.

Ok, you've persuaded me.

I think these offices are for the player, not the character, so they should be passed on to our next characters as well, so long as we keep working for the PBM.

The Office of Pontifex Maximus is a Senate position responsible for religion and morals; AFAIK the trait gives +4 influence. Quintus is already his influence cap of 10, but it would be a big deal for a youngster.

**TinCow** · 06-24-2006, 22:25

Originally Posted by econ21

Quintus is already his influence cap of 10, but it would be a big deal for a youngster.

Which you may have soon. I played the battle through once and lost. I managed to kill a bit over 50% of them, including the general, but they simply overwhelmed me. I probably could have done a bit better, but you're really going to have to pull off something spectacular to win this battle. No matter what you do, heavy use of both bodyguards is required, and since 90% of the Greek army is hoplites, that poses high risks. I think the Senate Memorial will be opening soon.

**x-dANGEr** · 06-25-2006, 09:07

Why is it so hard is because of the bug about the 'spear butt'.. As when you charge a phalanx in the rear, you lose a 'lot' of your men to it, just because of that bug that gives 'braced' bonus not only against charges from front, but from behind too.. Oh, and it was introduced in 1.3 and continued in 1.5, and it is really annoying, more and specially in MP battles.

**TinCow** · 06-25-2006, 14:33

No, it's the RTR changes. In RTR cavalry is designed for one thing and one thing only: charging. Once they charge, they have to be withdrawn quickly or they will be slaughtered... they don't have the stats for melee with infantry. Top it off with the fact that it's difficult for a cavalry unit to get up enough speed for a charge in a city and the anti-cavalry bonus that spear units get, and you're asking for a dead general. Not that it makes a difference in this battle as far as I can see. I've played it three times now and never gotten close to a victory. econ21 is a very good player and if anyone can pull it off, he can... but this one has me beat.

**x-dANGEr** · 06-25-2006, 16:15

I do understand the RTR changes.. But upon charging in the normal in MP, my men get slaughtered, whatever they were and whatever they're charging (As long as it is phalanx), so nowadays cav is like a 1 blow unit.. Just my last battle, I waited till I found the right spot to charge Seleucids with my Sacred Bands, I charged and routed their whole army, but yet lost my 3 Sacred band units..