The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II

**Lucjan** · 08-03-2006, 18:40

Everybody is open to voicing their opinion, thats the point of the game and the point of the senate system. If someone else thinks they're more qualified they can speak up. I don't see why the issue is apparently causing such a problem. It's a game, just play and have fun. I'm in a position right now where for the next 4 game years I'll be sitting around doing not a whole heck of alot of anything incredibly productive as a student in Rome. But I'm still putting my voice out there on issues you guys are raising.

**flyd** · 08-03-2006, 19:52

You wouldn't be denying anyone anything by being in command of an army as a student. We do not have a surplus of lower house generals. If anything, we have somewhat of a severe shortage.

That said, in-character, being a highly ranked member of the army, students will command troops over my dead body!

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 08-03-2006, 20:06

Lucjan,

With all the troops away and me squeezing the population for taxes, the chance of a decent legion-sized rebellion (or two or three) will be quite high. With no other lower house members around they are practically in your pocket. The same goes for Wonderland. If you are really fortunate, the Carthagians will pull of a naval invasion in Italy or Sicily

GeneralHankerchief has first shot at the rebels near Rome, but surely you will not begrudge him just 81 rebels ?

EDIT : By the way, any toughts on the trial ? Same goes for all the Aemilia.

**econ21** · 08-03-2006, 20:56

Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds

By the way, any toughts on the trial ?

From what TinCow was saying, the procedure should begin with you appointing the Praetor. Here, I think it partly depends on how involved you personally want to be during the trial. If you do want to be hands on, I am wondering if the most suitable role for the First Consul would be as the judge; that would free up Braden for another role. Aternatively, if you want to get on with playing the game, it might be best to delegate that role to someone else - Braden being the one volunteer we have.

The judge can open a thread devoted to it and collect together material from the prosecution, defence and witnesses as he sees fit. TinCow might help advise on procedure. IIRC, we need a prosecutor - would the co-Consul be available? Or do we have any other volunteers - eg who spoke against Laevinus in the Senate? Any volunteers to act out the part of Manius the mad?

**Lucjan** · 08-04-2006, 03:00

Oh I have no doubt that I'll be seeing my fair share of the gameplay, I've seen the save game file, I know how short handed we are. It just seems that some people are getting a little worked up over it, and I don't understand why...

Whatever, live and let live, unless you're a gaul, then we'll have to kill you.

**Dooz** · 08-04-2006, 03:48

Originally Posted by econ21

From what TinCow was saying, the procedure should begin with you appointing the Praetor. Here, I think it partly depends on how involved you personally want to be during the trial. If you do want to be hands on, I am wondering if the most suitable role for the First Consul would be as the judge; that would free up Braden for another role. Aternatively, if you want to get on with playing the game, it might be best to delegate that role to someone else - Braden being the one volunteer we have.

The judge can open a thread devoted to it and collect together material from the prosecution, defence and witnesses as he sees fit. TinCow might help advise on procedure. IIRC, we need a prosecutor - would the co-Consul be available? Or do we have any other volunteers - eg who spoke against Laevinus in the Senate? Any volunteers to act out the part of Manius the mad?

I'm sure TinCow or someone else already knows this, but just in case... for RP sake, whoever is the Praetor or judge for this can have the trait attributed to him manually. I just discovered it by accident when I wanted to give a character a general trait but I have him the Praetor one, and it's exactly what's needed for this case.

*edit*
Another quick gameplay question if I may. Does is show anywhere in-game the Legion names, like the Victrix or Gallica or whatnot? I'm just curious where you guys got the names for them in the in-character boards and stuff.

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 08-04-2006, 11:38

Originally Posted by Wonderland

I'm sure TinCow or someone else already knows this, but just in case... for RP sake, whoever is the Praetor or judge for this can have the trait attributed to him manually. I just discovered it by accident when I wanted to give a character a general trait but I have him the Praetor one, and it's exactly what's needed for this case.

*edit*
Another quick gameplay question if I may. Does is show anywhere in-game the Legion names, like the Victrix or Gallica or whatnot? I'm just curious where you guys got the names for them in the in-character boards and stuff.

Decius Curtis cannot get this trait as he is a spy and the game mechanics will not allow it.
On another issue, we could add the general trait manually, but I must strongly advise against this, as this might causes savegame problems.

Not in-game. There has been a long discussion about the Legion names and they are stored in the library. See wikipedia for a good source on the 'historical' legions. You can propose motion for name changes for legions based on their in-game achievements.

**Dooz** · 08-04-2006, 11:52

Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds

Decius Curtis cannot get this trait as he is a spy and the game mechanics will not allow it.
On another issue, we could add the general trait manually, but I must strongly advise against this, as this might causes savegame problems.

Ah, didn't know he was a spy. Well the trait should be given to someone for RP's sake anyhoo. I'm not sure what you mean about the general trait, but I was referring to a campaign of my own I'm playing, so no worries about save-game problems. I was just saying that the Praetor trait and General trait are in fact different in the game.

Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds

Not in-game. There has been a long discussion about the Legion names and they are stored in the library. See wikipedia for a good source on the 'historical' legions. You can propose motion for name changes for legions based on their in-game achievements.

Oh, I see, thanks.

**Mount Suribachi** · 08-04-2006, 07:31

Originally Posted by Lucjan

I'm in a position right now where for the next 4 game years I'll be sitting around doing not a whole heck of alot of anything incredibly productive as a student in Rome.

Actually, with a bit of luck you'll pick up some nice anciliaries from the scriptorium in Rome. I think I got architect and siege engineer.

Simon - Braden said earlier they were willing to be Manius the Mad. As for playing prosecutor, I think there were some senate members who showed a much more vigorous appetite for taking down the guilty - er, I mean the accused

**Braden** · 08-04-2006, 08:57

Happy to play both Praetor AND Manius if its required; quite experienced at playing multiple characters both for my normal LRP and on-line RP games. Well get the First Consul(s) to choose Praetor – from a gameplay side, it should be a character with a Generals Avatar so they can have the title added and we’ll get started.

**Braden** · 08-04-2006, 09:22

Whilst I haven’t been able to download the required zip files yet – can someone please give me a brief on the battle at the ford?

Was it a night-time battle?
Number of enemy forces, basic composition?
Composition of the Legion just prior to the battle (actually that should be in the library shouldn’t it?)?

This info is for Manius really – all madness-driven ravings are based on a grain of reality.

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 08-04-2006, 11:53

Originally Posted by Braden

Whilst I haven’t been able to download the required zip files yet – can someone please give me a brief on the battle at the ford?
Was it a night-time battle?
Number of enemy forces, basic composition?
Composition of the Legion just prior to the battle (actually that should be in the library shouldn’t it?)?

All public details concerning the battle can be found in the first consul report of FLYdude
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...9&postcount=15
He might be able to answer any additional questions. As the battle was autoresolved you are at liberty to make up any story you want about what 'really' happened.
Someone should be able to figure out exactly which savegame this concerns, download it, and provide you with all the relevant army composition information.

**econ21** · 08-04-2006, 12:49

This thread is getting rather long, so I am going to lock it and start a new one. Apparently, your computer loads up the whole of a thread when you click on it and so keeping threads small might reduce slow downs; the Org is not speedy at the best of times.