Kingdom of Heaven DVD release

[rebelscum]

Out on DVD from play.com. A great film about the crusades, slightly panned for its historical innacuracy. If you like the sight of large armies clashing and city seiges this is the film for you.

[TB666]

Why is this here ??
And IMO KoH sucked badly.

[rebelscum]

erm, so people on this forum can check it out if they are interested.

[Doug-Thompson]

It's about history. Ridley Scott directed it. Therefore, I'm interested. Thanks for the notice, Rebelscum.

[Kekvit Irae]

Kingdom of Heaven has NO place in the Colisseum. Wrong era, wrong discussion, wrong setting, wrong forum.
Moved.

[Templar Knight]

Cheers for the heads up, I thought it was still some way off.

[Geoffrey S]

Can't say I enjoyed the movie, but this was mainly due to Orlando Bloom's inability to carry such a part. Favourite part was the battle at the start in the forests and the sequences where Balian helped build up his land.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

And IMO KoH sucked badly

You don't have to be mean dude...

To tell you the truth I think there were many times when the movie could have had clashing armies and such, but he didn't. I personally would say I liked it, because of the genre, but I don't think I'd buy it on DVD.

Thanks for the notice though! I'll be sure to spread the word!

[Kraxis]

Can't say I enjoyed the movie, but this was mainly due to Orlando Bloom's inability to carry such a part. Favourite part was the battle at the start in the forests and the sequences where Balian helped build up his land.

He couldn't carry it?!
I beg to differ. His inherent looks of selfdoubt are in fact very in line with his character. He might not be a dialogist, but he is kept clear of that and allowed to be himself to a great extent. If that is not your view of the character then say so, but to say that Bloom didn't do what he was casted for with ample skill is simply wrong.
I do not say he was the best, but he was not wrong either.

Why is it, that every time we discuss Bloom, Di Caprio, Farrel or Pitt that they get a major axing? Hmm... Could it be that they have acted in girlfliks and are indeed quite handsome and have had their amount of success with the popularity of the fairer sex? Smells a whole lot like people can't stand that. I'll grant anyone that Farrel is not going to be a superb actor, neither perhaps Bloom (thought not a bad nor inept one either), but the other two can act and can act well.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

If you like the sight of large armies clashing and city seiges this is the film for you.

Yes large armies that dont fight. The best scene was the one on one between the Christain and the Muslim on the desert. After that the film went down hill. I dispised the so called hero for what he did.

[LeftEyeNine]

I'll be watching out to get the release.. Hurray !

[Azi Tohak]

LeftEyeNine, do you watch it in English? Or is there a version with Turkish subtitles or dubbing?

Azi

[Mouzafphaerre]

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I know at least one website (forum) where people voluntarily translate films and make downloadable subtitles.
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[Shahed]

It's about history. Ridley Scott directed it. Therefore, I'm interested. Thanks for the notice, Rebelscum.

If you have'nt watched it, I'd recommend it. It's fantasy mostly but still it is surely intersting to watch for any MTW player.

[Hurin_Rules]

Does this have any changes from the theatrical release? I was hoping they'd show more of the Battle of Hattin.

[Geoffrey S]

He couldn't carry it?!
I beg to differ. His inherent looks of selfdoubt are in fact very in line with his character. He might not be a dialogist, but he is kept clear of that and allowed to be himself to a great extent. If that is not your view of the character then say so, but to say that Bloom didn't do what he was casted for with ample skill is simply wrong.
I do not say he was the best, but he was not wrong either.

I also beg to differ.
He wasn't bad, no. When he was not being a leader of large numbers of people the part suited him. Like I said, it worked at the start of the movie and throughout the sequence where he works his land. Where he started struggling was when he was portrayed as an inspiring figure and leader of Jerusalem; he simply didn't quite have the powerful acting to make that side of his character believable.

Really not knocking him. There are actors who would have (and have) done far worse, but this movie needed someone with a bit more strength to carry the film, and in that regard he didn't quite nail it.

Perhaps I should see the movie again; maybe without such high expectations as before I can enjoy it on it's own merits.

[econ21]

I dispised the so called hero for what he did.

I haven't seen the film - what did he do that you despise? {Spoiler warning on...}

[Yawning Angel]

Does this have any changes from the theatrical release? I was hoping they'd show more of the Battle of Hattin.

This is the theatrical release. My copy of Empire this month suggests that people may want to wait a while for the inevitable Director's Cut before deciding whether they would like to purchase the original or extended version.

Will be waiting for the longer one myself . . .

[LeftEyeNine]

LeftEyeNine, do you watch it in English? Or is there a version with Turkish subtitles or dubbing?

Azi

I like English dubbed - Turkish subbed movies - contributes to my English a lot. And I think I'll watch this the same way too.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Yes. I'll watch it as it is too, withut the subbies.
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[edyzmedieval]

I really liked KoH.

Good thing, I'll get the DVD....

[LeftEyeNine]

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Yes. I'll watch it as it is too, withut the subbies.

My listening is not that perfect yet

[rebelscum]

Kingdom of Heaven has NO place in the Colisseum. Wrong era, wrong discussion, wrong setting, wrong forum.
Moved.

Other than the fact everyone I normally chat to is on here. Thanks for the nasty post on moving this as well, makes me feel really welcome.

[rebelscum]

You don't have to be mean dude...

To tell you the truth I think there were many times when the movie could have had clashing armies and such, but he didn't. I personally would say I liked it, because of the genre, but I don't think I'd buy it on DVD.

Thanks for the notice though! I'll be sure to spread the word!

The seige battle at the end was quite good. And yeah it is a pity those armies didn't clash when they met on the feild. It looked ripe for a good bit of carnage to me.

[Gregoshi]

Other than the fact everyone I normally chat to is on here. Thanks for the nasty post on moving this as well, makes me feel really welcome.

rebelscum, though I can relate to your reasoning, if everyone used the same criteria to determine in which forum they post all their topics, we'd have a mess on our hands. We have different forums to make it easier for people to find subjects that interest them. If I used your logic, I could open a thread to discuss the Green Bay Packers game last night here in the Monastery, but continuing this practice would eventually clutter the Monastery with non-historical threads. Her post may have been a little terse, but kekv was 100% correct in what she said. Besides, we moderators are human too - we have our less than Sterling moments every now and then...I had one a couple of days ago.

[Kraxis]

I also beg to differ.
He wasn't bad, no. When he was not being a leader of large numbers of people the part suited him. Like I said, it worked at the start of the movie and throughout the sequence where he works his land. Where he started struggling was when he was portrayed as an inspiring figure and leader of Jerusalem; he simply didn't quite have the powerful acting to make that side of his character believable.

Really not knocking him. There are actors who would have (and have) done far worse, but this movie needed someone with a bit more strength to carry the film, and in that regard he didn't quite nail it.

Perhaps I should see the movie again; maybe without such high expectations as before I can enjoy it on it's own merits.

That is all I ask for.
My experience tells me that people tend to judge movies for their own views of the leading actor/actress. And in the case of the four actors I mentioned there tends to be a good deal of nosewrinkling, and when asked why they are just claimed to be bad. But bad acting is Mark Hamil or that girl (the main female character) from Blade II.

It seems I judged you a little too harshly.

[Mouzafphaerre]

My listening is not that perfect yet

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Neither is mine. I just push it forward.
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[LeftEyeNine]

Pushing needs effort. Effort pumps adrenaline. Adrenaline drives me angry. I crash the DVD into pieces..

I currently prefer to get used to pronounciations of casual talk : Hear the words, watch the Turkish sub, guess the next one and see if the translator did it right

I think I'll be able to improve my listening substantially only by talking the language with a native speaker. Practice makes sense..

*derails*

Oh sorry..

*pushes it back into track*

ARGH !

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I wanna visit Turkey. So much ancient history! What part do you live in?

[Mouzafphaerre]

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It would be an honour to meet an orgah in real life.
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