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    Hi
    according to you, what is the most powerful wariors of the factions. for example, I think, jannisaries are most poweful wariors of the ottomon empire.
    what do you think about this subject.
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    Welcome to the Org, ave maximus!

    Given that I'm not familiar with every faction in MTW/VI, I'll just list a few here (you already listed the Turks and their Jannissaries, so I shan't repeat them).....

    English: Mercian-trained Billmen, Welsh-trained Longbowmen
    Spanish: Jinnettes, Lancers
    Byzantines: Varangian Guard, Pronoai Allagion
    Danes: Huscarles
    HRE: Gothic Knights, Swiss Armoured Pikeman
    Almos: Almohad Urban Militia
    French: Tolouse-trained Chivalric Knights
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    I really like the Byz horse archers as well


    Italians: the Italian infantry, in early i use them for almost everything where they don't have to run.

    And of course some units from a particular province everyone can use, like
    Gallow Glasses (especially in early they rock)




    In MTW:VI:

    Vikings: JOMS. When they are teched up, 1 unit can slaughter like thousands of peasants, UM and Fyrds, not even losing half of the unit.


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    in the rome total war
    armored war elephant - selecuid empire
    thisone is most powerful a war unıt on the game.
    this unıt is a nightmare for all other unıts and fanctions
    I have a question to MTW2 producer.
    in the MTW2 ,will it be powerful unıt like thisone

    furthermore, can we explain about powerful units only for MTW2
    maybe, CA reads this table and develops the game

    mine next message will be in this side

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    Not really a faction related unit but Swiss armoured pikemen are probably the most powerfull unit, followed by the Heavy Jannies and the Vang. guards. Neither of them is very fun to use though.

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    Gothic Sergeants are pretty tough as HRE troops, too - although painfully slow...

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    In RTW V1.5 against the AI I suggest it is the Egyptian Chariot archer Generals. Archery, speed, and devastating spiked rear wheels which is deadly against most types of cavalry.
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    Welcome.

    War Elephants are easily defeated, just amok them with flaming arrows so that they help instead of hinder your faction.
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    Hi
    I found new a unit. it is name, cataphrats ( it is only selecuid and parthia)
    if your army only has this unıt ( it has not another unıt), everytime you will win all your battles.
    if you dont believe me, try it.

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    kataphrats are great troops and proberly the best of the byz.
    English it's easily the billman and longbow combo together.
    Danes the most powerful huscarles? or maybe berserkers
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    Default Re: what is the most poweful wariors of the factions

    Definately beserkers. Or steppe calvary

    DONT you dare say steppe calvary suck. They fly pass the enemy at 100mph and pack a punch if the charge someone. incredibly easy to flank somebody with those babys.
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    in MTW every cristian faction that has chivalric foot knight; that is there strongest unit. in RTW: Spartans and Urban Cohorts. THEY ARE EQUAL. Once i played as Spartans they won. But when i played as Urbans they won.
    btw chivalric foot knights are much stronger than billmen. and kill cavalry easy. they rout in like 8,10 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    Not really a faction related unit but Swiss armoured pikemen are probably the most powerfull unit, followed by the Heavy Jannies and the Vang. guards. Neither of them is very fun to use though.
    vang. guards are great too. oh yea forgot about them. they are quite strong. but for some reason patch 1.1 wont let you recruit them anymore. unless you play as swiss. (you have to mod to do that.)

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    Welcome to The Org.

    Camels are definately the best unit...

    they can defeat any cavelry unit without problems (except ranged cav) and do pretty decent vs. infantry as well. Besides that, they're pretty cheap.
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    Default Re: what is the most poweful wariors of the factions

    Almohad: Faris (AUM are ok but not ground shaking, the Elmos definitely need horse archers against the lumbering catholic armies)
    Byzantine: varangian guards (eat Janissaries for breakfast)
    Aragonese/Spanish: lancers
    Danes: huscarles obviously
    English: longbowmen
    Egypt: probably camels, Egypt doesn't really have a special lineup
    French: chivalric knights
    Hungarian: skezily (sp?) horse archers
    HRE: gothic knights
    Italians: gothic knights. Italian infantry is great too.
    Turks: Janissary heavy infantry (honorable mention to the normal JI)
    Russians: boyars (but steppe heavy cavalry is more cost efficient)

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    Default Re: what is the most poweful wariors of the factions

    Quote Originally Posted by ave maximus
    according to you, what is the most powerful wariors of the factions.
    I agree with Martok on the ones he listed and here are a few more:

    Egypt = Saracen Infantry
    Argonese = Lancers
    Italians = Italian Light Infantry
    Russians = Boyars, Dismounted Druhzina Cav (if I remember correctly they dismount to field feudal foot knight, very cost effective)
    Byzantine = add Byzantine Cavalry (I seem to remember them the best from the Byz games I played)

    In general:
    Muslims = Armenian Heavy Cav, and CAMELS
    Ireland = Galloglasses
    Switz = Anything with Swiss in the name
    In the East = Steppe Cav, and Steppe HCav.

    I also had alot of fun with:
    Jinettes, Highland Clansmen, Naptha Throwers, Bulgarian Brigands, any of the skirmishing units,and Jannisary Infantry

    I think that sums it up. I know some of them aren't the best ones, they are just the ones that I remember performing the best for me. Although I might have left out later period ones, most of my games start in Early and end in High.
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    Hi
    thanks everybody for all explains. if producer of MTW2 CA is read this table,
    it is most important for the game was develop.
    ok. we have to give new ideas.
    I think, heavy cavalry of the ottoman empire is most powerfull warriors in the medieval age. this army of the ottoman only is formed horsemans. there arent infintry this group. because for this army most speedy and powerfull. this unıt has equipment only arch and sword. it has shield and full armored.
    this unıt goes to enemy lands before main ottoman army and battle the enemy armies. so enemy armies get tired before main battle. in the time the battle, ottoman armies win the battle easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei Warrior
    Ireland = Galloglasses
    I agree. Awesome at killing everything except Joms and Varagian. But they should avoid such collisions anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rythmic
    I agree. Awesome at killing everything except Joms and Varagian. But they should avoid such collisions anyway.
    You can avoid nasty Danish/Viking units by conquering them first. You can avoid the Byz by waiting until after High, if you're patient, or getting them really early on to avoid any unfortunate meetings.
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