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    I have a question. If much of Europes youth is unemployed why is there such a need for immagrants?
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    Its al little bit misleading to say that... For instance, here in Ireland we have extremely HIGH employment. Europe is a collection of 25 different countries. Its not very easy to make a statement that fits most of them, forget all of them.
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    Hence why the EU is such a bad idea. To imagine that one monetry policy fits so many different countries is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    I have a question. If much of Europes youth is unemployed why is there such a need for immagrants?
    AFAIK employment isn't really a problem, if you're willing to work 'lower' jobs, unemployment is usually either due to lack of willingness to work (a lot of people hang around for a year or more after HS if they don't go to college) or because they are looking for a 'good' job, in line with their degree. It might be the European mentality of wanting to work for one company for the rest of their lives (if there are still people like that around) that keeps some people from excepting the first job they can get. But really, I don't know anyone who has had any real problems getting a job.

    Also if you're going for a higher level job, it might take weeks or even months of interviews/tests before you know wether you're in or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    I have a question. If much of Europes youth is unemployed why is there such a need for immagrants?
    Two things:
    The U.K. has unemployment of around 5% (that only counts those claiming unemployment benefit, there are therefore many more without work who don't claim benefits, claim incapacity benefit etc), not full employmeny by any measure.
    Migrant communities often have much higher unemployment rates in the U.K.

    So in answer to your question, I don't know.

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    The article is rather biased.

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    100 % employment is not managable for any country (if only for the reason that no new jobs can be created)
    A nation usually is considered to have full employment when it's around 94%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec
    100 % employment is not managable for any country (if only for the reason that no new jobs can be created)
    A nation usually is considered to have full employment when it's around 94%
    does that mean 94% of the potential workforce not claiming unemployment specific benefits or does that mean 94% of the potential workforce in work?

    Because in the U.K it is the former.

    Edit: and I thought that opinion amongst economists varied from between roughly 93 and 98% rather than a set 94%
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    Hides a lot, doesn't it? All those young minds doing courses purely to waste 3 more years. And people that haven't enough NI contributions to get the allowance. And probably loads of others as well.
    Without the City of London and the financial companies there, England would be in dire straits.

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    The conclusion is that we have only a few hundred years left to integrate immigrants.

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