Hardly the same situation, but Churchill was another to say things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get better.
People generally after the dismay has warn off appreciate this approach as there are no nasty let downs later on.
Re: U.S. Embassy Report on Iraq -- Not So Upbeat
Hardly the same situation, but Churchill was another to say things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get better.
People generally after the dismay has warn off appreciate this approach as there are no nasty let downs later on.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
Re: U.S. Embassy Report on Iraq -- Not So Upbeat
Well, considering that Churchill was appointed during war and not re-elected after it (at least not straight after it), it's hard to see why politicians don't want to learn from Churchill.
Student by day, bacon-eating narwhal by night (specifically midnight)
Re: U.S. Embassy Report on Iraq -- Not So Upbeat
I guess it depends what the politicians are in it for: themselves or their country.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
Re: U.S. Embassy Report on Iraq -- Not So Upbeat
Pretty obvious which one most of them value.
Student by day, bacon-eating narwhal by night (specifically midnight)
Re: U.S. Embassy Report on Iraq -- Not So Upbeat
What if Bush had said this is going to be a long war with substantial casualties on both sides at great cost to the USA and the Iraqi people but for a greater good in long run for the US, Iraq and the middle east in general, additionally there are believed to be WMDs in the region (and that whole WMD speil but who knows what what was lies and what was honestly bad information?)
I myself wouldn't be as disgusted with the carrying out of the war and I think would still have supported it back then seeing as the orignial reason I supproted it was to put pressure on Iran and Syria although that's not feasible anymore.
Would you have preferred this opposed to the they'll greet us with flowers and candy as liberators and the oil of Iraq willl cover the cost of the war? and more importantly blunt truth war have affected your opinon.
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
Four stage strategy from Yes, Minister:
Stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
Stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.
Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.
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