Suicide of faction leader.

**Ciaran** · 06-20-2006, 09:51

Then you´d better call backyour armies to Italy, or raise new ones. From what I´ve read (I´ve never had the Senate dislike me enough to order my leader to commit suicide - how do you do it?) the suicide will only give you a couple of turns before the Senate will request the next sacrifice of a leader.

**Quillan** · 06-20-2006, 14:28

I've never been ordered to suicide either, but I've heard the same thing. Within a couple of turns, your new faction leader will be ordered to suicide. Get those armies back ASAP!

**Garvanko** · 06-20-2006, 15:16

You know things are a bit shakey with the senate when they start threatening to investigate your faction's finances.

I would never accept assassination of my faction leader. We are a family, after all.

**The Spartan (Returns)** · 06-20-2006, 15:25

anyway if you read Froggy's guide i think she said if you accept they will ask again soon. (to make your faction leader commit suicide)

**IrishArmenian** · 06-20-2006, 15:33

I have been asked to do this, but I rejected them. I was the Scippii with large armies in Carthage and Sicily, so I just left a couple of people there and picked the good units out of the two armies. Of course, this is after the Marian Reforms, so it was much easier because the Senate still has Hastati and Velites and that sort of stuff.

**Mooks** · 06-21-2006, 04:10

Your right, the asked again. I couldnt do it this time because he's a 8 star general of mine. The war is a bit shaky, I managed to scrap together a 4 star general and his bandit-destroying army (gladiators, praetorians, and arcani) and am making it a full fledged legion. The senate is kicking my ass at sea, and brutii are threatning my bases in the middle east. I have bribed 2 of brutii commanders (did you know that if you bribe the romans and you are a roman, you will get ALL units?) and bribed a army going towards pavatium.

**Ciaran** · 06-21-2006, 13:37

The Senate gives you a beating at sea? I´ve never seen them having even one ship, much less enough for a naval victory.

(did you know that if you bribe the romans and you are a roman, you will get ALL units?)

And yes, that´s well known. If you bribe an army all units you can recruit yourself (I think this includes mercenaries, but I´m not sure there) will join you, and of course, if you´re Roman, then you can keep all units of a bribed Roman army.

**Celt Centurion** · 08-12-2006, 19:04

I've had the order to have my Faction leader commit suicide quite often, pretty much every game that I'm a Roman Faction, and have won the "short" campaign. There was one time however, when it did not happen till about 30 or so BC. By then, I had won the "short" campaign, and had nearly 40 territories.

The order is quite simple, the tile tell you to have your faction leader commit suicide, and there is a place to click "accept or reject." If you accept, your Faction Leader dies instantly. If you reject, you are immediately outlawed, and the Senate, and both other Roman factions begin attacking you immediately. I havein the past, accepted the mission, but soon learned, that then they tell you to have your new Faction Leader commit suicide as well, and the next new one, and so forth, which will cause your family to die out.

Your family members all commit suicide, and then a Faction Destroyed tile comes up, referring to your faction.

What I do now, is have two large armies with fully upgraded armor, waiting in Forts near the border furthest from the one adjoining Rome, and when the mission comes to commit suidide, I refuse, and immediately dispatch the armies to Besiege Rome. The Senate will usually have 2-3 full stacks by then, One with after Marius troops, maybe two, and they will usually have "silver armor." There will usually be a third, consisting of Pre-Marius units inside the wall. I have always had to destroy the two "stonger" ones first, and the last one inside the wall doesn't seem quite as tough. Once, they made it really easy, by all three armies attacking me, outside the walls, and instead of all three at once, it was one at a time, giving me a chance to reform before they made contact.

From Refusing the Suicide Order to becoming Imperator, was two turns.

Strength and Honor,

Celt Centurion

Originally Posted by Ciaran

Then you´d better call backyour armies to Italy, or raise new ones. From what I´ve read (I´ve never had the Senate dislike me enough to order my leader to commit suicide - how do you do it?) the suicide will only give you a couple of turns before the Senate will request the next sacrifice of a leader.