Hey Pot? This is Kettle, about that Kyoto Protocol...

[Husar]

OK, maybe hypocrisy is not the right word. I guess its more along the lines of words like "failure", "breaking a commitment", and possibly "lied". Sorry, I'll try to better my writing skills to satisfy your standards.
Again, instead of worrying about countries that didn't sign this dumb treaty, maybe the countries that signed should work harder on being responsible for what they said they would do and maybe the people of these countries should criticize their own countries instead of trying to divert the discussion to uninvolved countries. "Well the US and China didn't even sign" isn't a valid arguement on the failure of those that have signed up for this and sounds more like my son explaining why he's not eating his veggies because, "Nanna' no eat hewr bwokwie". Is it so hard to take criticism, apparently thicker skin is in order for our friends across the pond.

Maybe our failure hurts your fragile american minds, but your american emissions hurt my european health and the world climate and that´s what makes me a lot more upset. You just took the easy way out. One could also say we europeans had at least the balls to try to do something...

[English assassin]

Not only that, this thread is about European hypocrisy, so take your bitter pill and leave the USA and China out of the discussion because that's not the issue at hand.

Yeah, we failed to meet the targets. That's bad of us. No bitching, no excuses. We should have done better and we didn't.

See? Its not so hard to do. Could fellow Euroweenies just apologise and move on? Anything else is just giving Dave the horn.

[spmetla]

This isn't the kettle calling the pot black.
If the US had signed the Kyoto protocol and was also failing to meet the standards but stilling getting flak for it it would be.

All this shows is that the US was right about the Kyoto protocol setting unrealistic goals and that the lack of India or China included in it are still wrong. I wish that such ambitious goals hadn't been set but as pointed out before at least the signatory nations are TRYING to reduce emissions. Yes, in some places emissions increased but that's in certain areas while in others it was reduced.

And the US is trying to lower pollution as well, not being a signatory to the Kyoto protocol doesn't mean that no action is being done to reduce pollution. Unfortunately though the US is relying more on business to reduce it's own pollution than set some goals for them.

Use California as an example, it has some of the strongest measures being put forth to reduce pollution and waste of natural resources but it's still one of the most polluting states around. Although they are still big polluters imagine how much worse it would be if those regulations and such hadn't been put in place.

So stop pointing fingers at each other.