Makedonia recruitment

[Trithemius]

Since I have started a Makedonia campaign I have noticed a few odd things. I have know idea if these are features or bugs, or if they are known (I assume they must be), mostly I am just curious about them.

I'm confused about why Tylis/Odrysai has none of the normal Makedonian units. It's a type i government area, but I can't even recruit basic taxeis hoplitai there.

Similarly, I'm not sure why Nikomedia/Bithynia does not allow Makedonia unit recruitment either, when it seems most of the surrounding areas do.

I'm also a bit perplexed about why Sparta has a type iii government. I realise that Sparta had a quite strong cultural identity, but surely the long build time of the type ii government represents overcoming these differences?

If there are sound reasons, of which I am ignorant, for why these provinces are they way they are then I would like to be educated. If they are are known errors then I apologise for the repetition, the Makedonians are all new and exciting (at least for me!).

[O'ETAIPOS]

I'm confused about why Tylis/Odrysai has none of the normal Makedonian units. It's a type i government area, but I can't even recruit basic taxeis hoplitai there.

This province is culturally completely different from mak lands. Only reason there is govt I available is that it is just next to the capita - there could be direct king's controll. So you have only celtic units. In next build you should get Thracian units from there.

Similarly, I'm not sure why Nikomedia/Bithynia does not allow Makedonia unit recruitment either, when it seems most of the surrounding areas do.

This is a bug (at least partially) - you should get some units from there

I'm also a bit perplexed about why Sparta has a type iii government. I realise that Sparta had a quite strong cultural identity, but surely the long build time of the type ii government represents overcoming these differences?

Mak govt is a bit different than roman - political not cultural

govt I are lands with people similar to makedonians or\and royal demesyne(sp?)
govt II is land controled by governor
govt III is "allied" state that stays allied because it has Mak garnison
and govt IV is allied state under local tyrant

the Makedonians are all new and exciting (at least for me!).

Yes, Mak's are great!

[Trithemius]

Thanks for the reply! :)

I look forward to seeing some of these Thracian units too.

[orwell]

Playing as Makedonia, where should I head off to conquer to recruit some good archers?

[Trithemius]

I have no idea myself! I mostly use javelins (peltastai, akonistai, and theureophoroi).

[orwell]

maybe I should smash the epeirotes before I remove kionon hellon? I don't know if they'll prove to be more problemsome if I leave them alone and go for epeiros first, but right now they're are a pain in the arse. Can't they focus on Rome and leave me alone.

[Simmons]

Playing as Makedonia, where should I head off to conquer to recruit some good archers?

Archers lets go East!

Or you could just use Sphendonetai (slingers) they will do just fine against the western mediterranean powers.

[orwell]

Well, that first attempt went pathetically, started and lost in one night. Feels like a Baktrian campaign.

I immediantly took all my forces to crush KH, leaving minimal garrisons in all my towns. While conquering them, I disbanded as much as I dare, and yet still ended up with huge amounts of debt, leaving me unable to make headway and foreshadowing my downfall. After finally chasing them out with the faction heir sitting outside sparta gaining command stars for no apparant reason I had lost more than half my entire army, and had since disbanded some more of the hammer to atempt to allieve debt. While this was happening, they took.... the town between Athens and Pella that I can't recall the name of, and made me wonder.

Why isn't Thessaly in? Why do we have nowheresville in northern europe. I generally like the city distribution but this seems like a rather.... poor decision of the EB team. You can recruit thessalian calvary, but you can't visit the city its from. Some breaking up of the monotony of desert on the eastern coast of the med would be nice too, but whatever.

After losing that town they contented themselves with turning Pella into a siegefest galore, I was fighting in the city every third turn and it was sieged every turn for about 4 years or so. That garrison wore down so much that it was just general 1 and 2 plus a couple of surviving militia hoplites. Towards the end of the siegefest they began seieging athens and other towns thus halting my recruitment which only started about half a year before the end due to my debt. The size of the armies are just too big to fight with out the hammer, and I disbanded those guys to save me from the debt that froze any sort of offensive. Now if KH did a naval invasion that'd really put the finishing blow on me.

Too hot to sleep, time for M2. This time I'll hit Epeiros first.

As far as units, I've had the best success with archers, though that was more with western med as the romans, maybe I'll try slingers against the hoplites. The only problem with slingers is that unless I'm in a battlefield they tend to kill more of my troops than the enemy.

[Trithemius]

Mak govt is a bit different than roman - political not cultural

govt I are lands with people similar to makedonians or\and royal demesyne(sp?)
govt II is land controled by governor
govt III is "allied" state that stays allied because it has Mak garnison
and govt IV is allied state under local tyrant

I have been thinking about this a little. If the Makedonian governments are purely political then why would Sparta not be able to have a Makedonian governor forced upon it? Historically, I suppose this may not have happened, but couldn't it happen in a given game of EB?