ma man, what about the portuguese??? they are an unmistakingly importante faction of the Renaissance...they were the ones who directly and indirectly started the renaissance....with the nautical, and geographic discoveries, even before the Spanish...so making a renaissance mod without portugal is a waste of time.. and as always ppl tend to give the english, french, and germans, way too much importance in the renaissance, when in truth they hadn't. don't forget that this powers only expanded later, and at the expense of robbing, betraying the portuguese, spanish and papal states... that's a fact...maybe you should add portugal too...that's my point...