Gayness May Be Linked to Conditions in Womb

[Rodion Romanovich]

Besides, it ought to really tell something that where divorce is an option - de facto and de jure - it also gets done. A lot.

Maybe because people don't think marriage is a big deal anymore. Divorce must always be an option (and guess what even in a country considered backwards such as Iran divorce is allowed), but it shouldn't be abused. Same as with abortion, just because you can have an abortion it doesn't mean you should be too lazy to put on the condom.

Anyway, in the case you missed it my main point was the Good Old Nuclear Family isn't exactly the quarantee of happiness and joy you seem to think it is.

When did I claim that?

Besides, since homosexuals may also have children from other instances - for example made the old-fashioned way for one reason or another - anyway the point is a bit moot.

If they have children from before they have enough to worry about and don't need to make any adoptions. That they have children may prove them to be fairly decent for making an adoption, but they should put their own children first to give them a good upbringing.

Heck, even if you deny same-sex couples the right to a legally binding marriage or something comparable there isn't much you can do about them cohabitating simply without such ceremonials either, and as mentioned it is wholly withing the realm of possibility one or both of them may already have kids...

Another red herring I see. I'm not against gay couples marrying, because it doesn't hurt anyone.

Then there's the whole "but think of the children1!!!1!!!1" attitude in the first place. Because you know something ? That's what narrow-minded, prejudiced reactionaries pretty much without fail dig up as a blunt instrument against their little hates.

So you think a little defenceless kid who didn't choose to be born into this world has less rights than an adult who has had plenty of time to think about his/her responsibilities? What's next? Persecuting weak because they're weak? Persecute those who can't defend themselves because they annoy you? Our children are our future. We must do anything it takes to protect them from molesting, drunk parents and abuse. Interestingly enough, Hitler happened to be a molested, abused child. Most child molestors turn out to have been molested during their childhood. I think it says quite a lot about what responsibility handing out of adoption rights, and giving birth to a child and parenthood are.

Then there's the persistent, blatantly biased and clearly tendentious habit of associating homosexuality with pedophilia.

On the contrary I'm trying to separate the two. By allowing gay couples to adopt children, child molestors can easily pretend to be gay couples to get to adopt a child. Since female child molestors are a lot less common than male child molestors, allowing gay couples adopting is something that can increase the amount of adoption+molestion cases.

Which just plain stinks of an attempt at associating your pet hate with something sufficiently reprehensible. Kind of the way back in the Middle Ages and later people couldn't settle for just hating Jews, they had to come up with all the kooky stories about sacrificing children and whatever to justify it and goad themselves into even greater heights of, ah, righteous fury.

You're putting hatred and words into my mouth. I never expressed any hatred for homosexuals. On the contrary I'm speaking in favor of their rights to not be associated with pedophiliacs. By allowing gay couples to adopt children with the result that child molestors pretend to be gay couples and molest children, the hatred of society becomes directed towards innocent homosexuals and pedophilia and homosexuality is confused, with two possible results - either that a society eager to preserve gay rights chooses to accept pedophilia and child molestors, or a society hateful towards child molestors chooses to persecute innocent homosexuals too.

Next time before respond so angrily you could perhaps take some time reading what I actually said rather than putting words into my mouth. Homosexuals adopting children is not a gay rights question, it's about giving the child molestors a loophole to get hold of victims more easily. To disallow homosexuals adopting children is not oppression based on sexuality, it's a choice based on the safety of our children and preserving a good rumor for homosexuals to avoid their persecution. Biologically nobody has a right to adopt someone else's children, it's something that must be earned and have a good reason and lack such obvious dangers as the current case of child molestors pretending to be non-pedophilic homosexuals.