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    What's you view on homosexuals adopting children? In recent news, a homosexual couple molested an adopted child for a long time until discovered by the authorities. I think such incidents was the main argument against homosexuals adopting children before this incident was discovered, and now the extremists who support homosexuals adopting children have seen proof that this is indeed something that happens in reality. So what are your views on homosexuals adopting children? What are the reasons for supporting homosexuals adopting children? This couple was considered appropriate through very careful judgement made by the authorities but in the end turned out to be child molestor pedophiliacs. There might be even more such cases going on right at this moment that haven't been discovered yet. And that already after only a very few homosexual adoptions have been allowed.

    I'd like to hear if those who previously supported homosexual adoption still support it, and if they do, what their arguments for creating such child molesting scenarios are?
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    Are heterosexuals not molesting adopted children, or even their own children? Seems to be a huge gaping hole in your argument here.

    Using your logic, heterosexual couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt either. There have certainly been cases of heterosexual couples molesting their adopted children. For that matter, heterosexual couples shouldn't be allowed to keep their own children; because there have been cases of heterosexual couples molesting their own children.

    So, what do we do with the children? Hmm... Well, we can't give them to the Church, any church or religious organization for that matter, because of all the cases of molesting by priests and deacons and ministers and rabbis and ulamas and nuns and such. And I'm willing to bet you that children are more likely to be molested in orphanages than at church; so where does that leave us?

    Then there are the cases of children being molested by their teachers; so we can't let them attend school. And the parks, that's a clear no. Can't let them outside at all. But wait, we've already eliminated the inside as an unsafe place.

    I suppose we could launch all the children into space to keep them safe; but, really, given enough children and enough time, I'm certain there would be a case of an astronaut molesting one too.

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    Homosexual couples have no right to adopt children, just like a single male or a single female isn't allowed to adopt. Adopting or having children is a right restricted to a couple of a male and a woman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    There have certainly been cases of heterosexual couples molesting their adopted children
    The rate of molesting seems to be a lot lower for heterosexuals. Also, it's very often the woman in the household that provides the necessary help for the child that the male molests to get in touch with the police. Those children can get some comfort from their not molesting mothers, but a homosexual couple of two males where both are molesting the child... That's a horrible trauma.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    So, what do we do with the children?
    Orphans don't have an easy time, but at least it's better to be at an orphanage than being molested by your two daddies. Orphanage works, and there's no panic situation requiring us to endorse the extremism that homosexual adoption and the child molesting it results in is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    Homosexual couples have no right to adopt children, just like a single male or a single female isn't allowed to adopt. Adopting or having children is a right restricted to a couple of a male and a woman.
    Over here single parents can adopt. I thought it was the same in the US ? How did Angelina Jolie get her kids otherwise ?

    The rate of molesting seems to be a lot lower for heterosexuals.
    Please back this up with statistics.

    Also, it's very often the woman in the household that provides the necessary help for the child that the male molests to get in touch with the police.
    Where are you basing this argument on ? I've heard a lot of stories of mothers turning a blind eye. I've heard stories about mothers protecting their partner and caliing their children insane.

    Those children can get some comfort from their not molesting mothers,
    If they're being molested then either the mother leaves and tells the police or just ignores it/doesn't know about it/doesn't care, either way, there is no comforting while they're being molested...

    but a homosexual couple of two males where both are molesting the child
    So you'd need to have two child molestors comming together, that should be a pretty rare thing. Besides, women have been known to actively participate in molestation too.


    ... That's a horrible trauma.
    Like being raped as a kid isn't in any other case


    Orphans don't have an easy time, but at least it's better to be at an orphanage than being molested by your two daddies. Orphanage works
    True.

    EDIT: we don't need cars either, walking has worked for thousands of years, yet we seem to think that driving is preferable, just as most people would think raising a child in a family is preferable to an orphanage. People get run over by cars, children get molested in families (although they can get molested in orphanages too..) No solution is perfect.

    , and there's no panic situation requiring us to endorse the extremism that homosexual adoption and the child molesting it results in is.
    Adoption will always result in more molestation, just because child molesters will be more eager to get their hands on little children. I don't see what the sexual orientation of the adoptive parents has to do with it.
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    I agree, adoption at all is a dangerous business also for heterosexuals. Maybe both forms of adoption should be removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    I agree, adoption at all is a dangerous business also for heterosexuals. Maybe both forms of adoption should be removed.
    Nah, do you know what goes on in most orphanages ? I'd like to see statistics showing molestation rates for kids adopted and kids in an orphanage. There only needs to be one sicko in an orphanage to molest a whole bunch of children...
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    this thread is silly. Aenlic&Doc Bean pretty much said enough
    Abandon all hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    Please back this up with statistics.
    All statistics on the subject are silenced because of the extremist leadership that supports child molestation and homosexual adoption. A long google search doesn't show any statistics at all of the percentage of homosexual adoption cases that leads to child molestation compared to what percentage of heterosexual adoption leads to child molestation. It's of course in the interest of the supporters of child molestation and homosexual adoption to make sure there are no statistics so that the opponents of this extremism lose their best argument. But even without the main argument, there's still enough argumentation that there's no excuse for homosexuals adopting children, as it creates an unnatural family structure - and, as seen - a worse child molestation trauma than anything seen so far when child molestation actually happens. Remember that child molestation causes child molestation, so every case of child molestation that society causes causes plenty of child molestation in the future. This child who was victim of these horrible deeds might end up becoming such a monster himself, if he doesn't commit suicide first. Also remember that most forms of homosexuality throughout history has had elements of pedophilia. What do you think dad and dad will do when they have to help their adopted child to take a bath? Will they be able to resist their temptations? Homosexuality should be accepted and not lead to persecution, but homosexuals adopting children is not about acceptance towards homosexuals, it's about acceptance towards pedophiliacs.
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    It is legal in Sweden for a few years now and we haven't had any problems so far.
    However we do have a recent case(a few months old) where a hetrosexual couple tortured their adopted son to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    All statistics on the subject are silenced because of the extremist leadership that supports child molestation and homosexual adoption.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB666
    It is legal in Sweden for a few years now and we haven't had any problems so far.
    However we do have a recent case(a few months old) where a hetrosexual couple tortured their adopted son to death.
    In my country we had several of those, the only difference being that they were heterosexual couples or single mothers. None in the recent years had homosexuals involved.

    ..then again the media are probably silenced because of the extremist leadership that supports child molestation and homosexual adoption.
    Abandon all hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    All statistics on the subject are silenced because of the extremist leadership that supports child molestation and homosexual adoption. There's still no excuse for homosexuals adopting children, as it creates an unnatural family structure - and, as seen - a worse child molestation trauma than anything seen so far. Remember that child molestation causes child molestation, so every case of child molestation that society causes causes plenty of child molestation in the future. This child who was victim of these horrible deeds might end up becoming such a monster himself, if he doesn't commit suicide first.
    The first sign of a crackpot conspiracy theory is when the "the evidence" is hidden/lost/destroyed by some all-powerful "THEY" who have various nefarious designs. There is evidence! No, really! We just can't ever see it because "THEY" are keeping it from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Bush, you damn liberal
    Are you saying that Bush has allowed the collecting of such statistics? If so, please show them. From what I've heard Bush hasn't allowed such statistics to be collected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir
    this thread is silly. Aenlic&Doc Bean pretty much said enough
    What he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    The first sign of a crackpot conspiracy theory is when the "the evidence" is hidden/lost/destroyed by some all-powerful "THEY" who have various nefarious designs. There is evidence! No, really! We just can't ever see it because "THEY" are keeping it from us.

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    I'm sorry, Legio, but this is all just entirely too cliché for so early in the morning, my time.
    There's no conspiracy, it just happens to be a leadership where critisizing gay adoption is taboo. Saying that gays should die is and should be tabboo, but somehow extremists have gone too far in the political correctness and gay rights thing and claim that homosexual couples should be allowed to make adoptions, and gradually becoming more and more accepting towards pedophilia, especially homosexual pedophilia, as pedophilia somehow throughout history has been a central element of homosexuality. If the leadership wouldn't be so over-PC and have this tabboo there would be statistics. Please show these statistics, or else it's a pretty good proof that there's a taboo against making such statistics, because such statistics would be in the interest of many. The vast majority don't want acceptance towards pedophiliacs and child molestors.
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    Legio, why do you hate freedom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    What he said.
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    Yeah, damn gays - I hate 'em all. Look - here's one case so it SHOWS they're all in it together, aren't they.

    In fact, aren't paedophiles really gay as well? YEAH that sounds right - it must be true. I hate paedophiles and gay people, so they are the same.

    In fact, if there weren't any gays at all we'd get rid of all this child related crime. Let's lock these animals up, eh? No, het's shoot them all. Better yet, let's just make it legal to kill them, and print all paediatricians' names in the paper and then the world will be a better place.

    The fact that there's no proof shows that these poofs are connected in high places and it's all a conspiracy...

    Suddenly it's all so clear

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    It's amazing how calling someone who doesn't claim the existence of any conspiracy a conspiracy theorist is being used as a way of argumenting in modern debate.

    rory_20_uk your post clearly shows exactly what I'm talking about - how homosexuals adopting children is seen as a gay right and that being against it is not PC and considered to be the same as being against gay rights. Your post is just another example of the PC misconception and resulting taboo I've talked about in this entire thread.

    I wonder what the next step will be. Sooner or later you'll find an explanation for why pedophilia should be allowed and that it would be oppression of rights to not allow it. Yeah wait - pedophilia is a form of sexuality, so we can't dislike someone based on it or remove any rights from them based on it. Sex is a right to everyone, to a pedophiliac too. So we must of course allow pedophiliacs to adopt children, to get insemination and own children, and putting them in jail is Medieval and backwards.

    The homosexuals adopting children and the upcoming acceptance of child molestors and pedophiliacs is nothing else than left-extremism and neo-communism.
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    I think the knights in the order of the purple star that want to adopt a child are a pretty selfish bunch. Why is it never enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    It's amazing how calling someone who doesn't claim the existence of any conspiracy a conspiracy theorist is being used as a way of argumenting in modern debate.

    rory_20_uk your post clearly shows exactly what I'm talking about - how homosexuals adopting children is seen as a gay right and that being against it is not PC and considered to be the same as being against gay rights. Your post is just another example of the PC misconception and resulting taboo I've talked about in this entire thread.

    I wonder what the next step will be. Sooner or later you'll find an explanation for why pedophilia should be allowed and that it would be oppression of rights to not allow it. Yeah wait - pedophilia is a form of sexuality, so we can't dislike someone based on it or remove any rights from them based on it. Sex is a right to everyone, to a pedophiliac too. So we must of course allow pedophiliacs to adopt children, to get insemination and own children, and putting them in jail is Medieval and backwards.

    The homosexuals adopting children and the upcoming acceptance of child molestors and pedophiliacs is nothing else than left-extremism and neo-communism.


    This blinkered, biggoted intolerance which only uses facts to further ossify its position is nothing else than right-extremism and neo-nazism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

    This blinkered, biggoted intolerance which only uses facts to further ossify its position is nothing else than right-extremism and neo-nazism.

    Well, look at us. 'Open' as we are towards homosexuality, we now have a political party that wants to legalise sex between adults and children older then 12. Of course all they want is 'spark a discussion'.

    The homosexuals adopting children and the upcoming acceptance of child molestors and pedophiliacs is nothing else than left-extremism

    I agree.

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    And you feel that in a democracy such things should be stopped before they are started? Erm, Russian / Chinese Democracy, perhaps?

    Or is it only the "right" sort of person can discuss things, or on the "right" issues?

    I think that defining consentual sex merely on a person's age is extremely outdated. There might be some 16 or even 18 year olds who are not as ready as some 14 year olds.

    Puberty does start earlier due to better diet. So now we have an unfortunate situation where one's body and sex hormones are at a high level earlier than before.

    I don't know what needs to be done. But I do know that having intelligent adults duscuss this - or the house of Representatives and the Senate failing that - is better than to try to ban it - and then ignore all the youngsters screwing each other. Then the 17 year old with the 15 year old goes to jail, whereas the 15 year old can be with a 13 year old.

    In a hospital where I studied as a student there was a problem with the above. The 16 year old had a 14 year old girlfriend, and had been put on the sex offenders register. He needed to go into hospital. He's under 18 and so is a child. Matters came to an, uh, head when she was cought sucking his penis on the paediactric ward behind the curtains.

    Where do situations like that fit into your father fixed view on the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    It's amazing how calling someone who doesn't claim the existence of any conspiracy a conspiracy theorist is being used as a way of argumenting in modern debate.
    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    All statistics on the subject are silenced because of the extremist leadership that supports child molestation and homosexual adoption.
    Sounds like an unfounded conspiracy theory to me.

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If your contention is that (1) homosexual adoptive parents are much more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexual adoptive parents, and (2) "extremist leadership" is suppressing the statistics that would prove this point, you've got some evidence to provide.

    I don't think that's unreasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    The first sign of a crackpot conspiracy theory is when the "the evidence" is hidden/lost/destroyed by some all-powerful "THEY" who have various nefarious designs. There is evidence! No, really! We just can't ever see it because "THEY" are keeping it from us.

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    I'm sorry, Legio, but this is all just entirely too cliché for so early in the morning, my time.

    Seconded, this does indeed make for a good laugh with my morning coffee. Legio, don't you have more important things to do?
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    Not everything should be discussed, as some things are just immoral. Trying to 'spark a discussion' about an adult having sex with a 12 year old is a sign for me that it has gone too far allready.

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    Ah, yes, but how about when it's a blonde woman teacher having sex with a 12-year old male student who gets a relatively light sentence, then violates her probation when she does get out by getting impregnated by the now 16-year old and gets another light sentence because she's pregnant, upon her second release she marries the now 20-year old and goes on the talk show circuit, including Larry King, explaining all about how it was love not child rape.
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    It's not about individual cases, it is about the need some people feel to relativate everything. For me, I kinda want to spark a discussion about slowly torturing dolphins to death, let's see how they like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    All statistics on the subject are silenced because of the extremist leadership that supports child molestation and homosexual adoption.
    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    Bush, you damn liberal
    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    Are you saying that Bush has allowed the collecting of such statistics? If so, please show them. From what I've heard Bush hasn't allowed such statistics to be collected.
    No statistics, ergo Bush is one of the extremist leadership who doesn't want you to see these statistics. Wouldn't it be fun if he came out of the closet during his next State of the Union speech?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    I kinda want to spark a discussion about slowly torturing dolphins to death, let's see how they like that.
    You'll need to start a new thread on that, I'm afraid. Dolphin torture is a bit OT from this. But by all means, let the cetacean crucifixion chat commence!

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