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    Liberals and hippies please be kind and stay out. Just start your own club. Thanks.

    Yah. It's been done before.

    I heretoforth announce The XIV Conservative Club of the Org Backroom.

    The purpose of The XIV Conservative Club is to establish a thread where conservatives may discuss the politics within the right-wing conservative realm. Leftist Liberals and bystanders are invited to chime in, gape in awe and wonder, or do any such thing as they see fit. Conservatism may only be advanced through education of one's self. It must be understood to be embraced, and our purpose is to understand the subtle nuances within our political perspective in order to better ourselves. The XIV Conservative Club seeks not to declare our superiority, since that debate has already ended for our members, lest they would not be here. Instead, our mission is to improve upon that which we believe to be best for the future of civilization and society. There are many stripes of conservatism, but which is best for the Western wolrd is something we here seek to discuss.

    Before further discussion, please announce your alleigance.

    MEMBERS:

    The Honorable Mr. Eclectic

    The Honorable Mr. Gelatinous Cube, of the Libertarian Bloc

    The Honorable Mr. Alexander the Pretty Good

    The Honorable Mr. Crazed Rabbit, of the Libertarian Bloc

    The Honorable Mr. Strike For The South, of the Texas Alliance Currently confused by the leftist liberal machine. Favors Palestinain terrorists to Israeli Democracy and voted "left" on which side one swings. Of Course, he had never really said "Aye" either. I am sure the leftists shall welcome you. Surely our beloved Texas cannot. You will be missed.

    Membership remains open...




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    Thou shalt not mention leftist liberals expect to show their folly to the world yet again.

    Leftist Liberalism is to be considered a disease, and conservatism its cure.

    The intrusion of leftist liberals is to be expected here. Consider them the colorful decorations; do not engage them directly, lest you disrupt the sanctity of our illustrious club.

    Spectators are to be expected as well. Respect their presence, but engage them at peril- they may be a leftist liberal in disguise.

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    All those who agree to the manlaws of the conservative club say "aye" and ye shall be entered into our rolls as a member. Break your sacred vows and ye shall be expelled, forever branded a leftist liberal in the eyes of the membership of this,

    The XIV Conservative Club



    Issues Debated and Conclusions Reached

    First Procession, First Chapter: Defining Conservatism
    In Progress...

    Second Procession, First Chapter: Religion in Public Policy
    On the Chopping Block...
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    Have their really been fourteen conservative clubs? And don't you guys have your own forum? I could have sworn I heard of one....


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    The fourteenth? I used to have the second bookmarked, but then firefox lost all my bookmarks.

    And who's this Eclectic fellow? Is that you, DA?

    Have their really been fourteen conservative clubs? And don't you guys have your own forum? I could have sworn I heard of one....
    Really? It'd be nice to not defend the basic tenants of capitalism all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    And who's this Eclectic fellow? Is that you, DA?
    Yup. That's DA. He scared the hell out of me when he changed his name in the middle of one of our debates. I was like, "who the hell is this 3000+ posts guy, and why is he responding me like that, as if I've ever talked to this weirdo before! WTF?" for a few seconds.

    DA...Eclectic, don't you know that since JAG is back, historical inevitability dictates so that all attempts at creating Konservative Klubs will be assaulted very soon by angry proletarian mobs he represent? Tsk. Tsk.

    I assume the Fourteenth is just an indirect implication of support for the Sun King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclectic
    Liberals and hippies please be kind and stay out. Just start your own club. Thanks.

    Yah. It's been done before.

    I heretoforth announce the XIV Conservative Club of the Org Backroom.

    Before further discussion, please announce your allegiance.

    MEMBERS:

    TBD


    BYLAWS:

    TBD
    What opinions do you need to hold to be counted as conservative?
    Under construction...

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    What opinions do you need to hold to be counted as conservative?
    Basically you need to agree with everything Divinus says , otherwise you are a liberal .
    A recent case in point would be a certain very very fundamentalist Christian who was labelled a liberal for having a differing viewpoint .

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    Am I a conservative or a liberal? I never know since I get an ear bashing from both sides.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    1st bylaw.

    Bylaws are now manlaws
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    1st bylaw.

    Bylaws are now manlaws
    Why does that mean?

    Strike weren't you kicked out of the members only conservative club for being too liberal?


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    I was both booed and hissed (nobody threw anything) when speaking at a literary conference for stating that the marketplace was the best medium for sorting out good authors from bad. And you should see the hate email I got for declaring that socialism and communism were dead ends.

    But here? Oh, I guess I'm a big lefty for the Bushistas. But I'm in good company, with George Will and Navaros now considered liberals.

    I never posted in a Conservative Club thread before, but it does bear mentioning -- don't you cute little ubercons have your own secret treehouse out there on the web somewhere? Complete with secret handshakes and decoder rings?

    What is the purpose of a new CC on the Org? Did your server die?

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    Still as stupid as the day it was first proposed here at the .org, yet such a parable of what Conservatives are like; Elite, inward looking dividers.

    If you want your own club, join a Conservative forum, surely there must be some people out there so big headed that they believe it is only to themselves they must talk for enlightenment, without dirtying the waters of the backroom.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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    I want to be an elite, inward-looking divider!

    And let Lemur in if he wants to, although I don't think he does.

    And JAG, you guys started a "Progressives" thingy in a thread a while back. Don't talk of dirtying these already squalid waters!

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    Conservatives are the Elite? Surprised to hear Jag state that they are the best in society.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    Why be conservative? It's a waste of time.

    Have a nice cold beer instead.


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    Why be conservative? It's a waste of time.
    Because: "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
    Hunter was talking about gun-rights IMHO.
    He might have been talking about abortion but with a name as cool as Hunter S. Thompson I doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Still as stupid as the day it was first proposed here at the .org, yet such a parable of what Conservatives are like; Elite, inward looking dividers.

    If you want your own club, join a Conservative forum, surely there must be some people out there so big headed that they believe it is only to themselves they must talk for enlightenment, without dirtying the waters of the backroom.
    So, it's not stupid, just like it wasn't when it first came to be?

    And funny you use it as a reason to accuse conservatives, since I remember some other clubs immediately starting up.

    And you talk about big-headed, then imply that anything not stamped with approval by chomsky is 'dirtying the waters of the backroom' as though this were a lefty shrine to lenin.

    And don't even get me started on leftist elitism. Doesn't Chomsky have trusts (which he rails against when other people have them) for his own children?

    I was both booed and hissed (nobody threw anything) when speaking at a literary conference for stating that the marketplace was the best medium for sorting out good authors from bad. And you should see the hate email I got for declaring that socialism and communism were dead ends.

    But here? Oh, I guess I'm a big lefty for the Bushistas. But I'm in good company, with George Will and Navaros now considered liberals.
    I think most Americans, of either party, would agree with your sentiments. And what's with the term 'Bushistas'? The newest sound byte from kos?

    I never posted in a Conservative Club thread before, but it does bear mentioning -- don't you cute little ubercons have your own secret treehouse out there on the web somewhere? Complete with secret handshakes and decoder rings?

    What is the purpose of a new CC on the Org? Did your server die?
    No, actually it's in one of my underground lairs where we plot global domination, unrestained capitalism and an end to sensitivity campaigns of any type.
    But we don't have any decoder rings, which is probably why we haven't been successful yet. Your idea of using an 'internet' 'forum' as a meeting place is intriguing, considering that our current communication method of cans and strings is high maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    He might have been talking about abortion but with a name as cool as Hunter S. Thompson I doubt it.
    I bet he's got the rolled-up sleeves, the granite-slab jawline, the quarter-inch cropped hair, and hamstrings like slabs of raw meat. I also bet he drives the biggest and most inefficient SUV on the market, and that he feels just a bit happier with each ton of carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere.

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    He's also dead.
    Cowardice is to run from the fear;
    Bravery is not to never feel the fear.
    Bravery is to be terrified as hell;
    But to hold the line anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    He's also dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
    Conservatives are the Elite? Surprised to hear Jag state that they are the best in society.




    CR - other clubs started up - none of which came with my satisfaction and agreement and I stated that in all of them.

    And I think the reason as to why these threads are so pointless and loathing is summed up with the factthat this is the 14th one. When it fails once can't you just leave it, surely that isn't very market responsive.
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    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG



    CR - other clubs started up - none of which came with my satisfaction and agreement and I stated that in all of them.

    And I think the reason as to why these threads are so pointless and loathing is summed up with the factthat this is the 14th one. When it fails once can't you just leave it, surely that isn't very market responsive.
    I thought you'd be pleased - it's obviously a lovely command economy. The proletariat will like this type of thing, or they are Enemies of The State.

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    I guess you just couldn't understand the concept of elitism JAG. After all... Keele ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    I guess you just couldn't understand the concept of elitism JAG. After all... Keele ?
    Ouch!

    I like elitism. I guess most who went to Imperial College, London do...

    It's lonely at the top, but the view is great

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
    I thought you'd be pleased - it's obviously a lovely command economy. The proletariat will like this type of thing, or they are Enemies of The State.

    Wasn't Proletariat, now one of our assistant mods, once a member of one of these clubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    I guess you just couldn't understand the concept of elitism JAG. After all... Keele ?
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
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    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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    And I think the reason as to why these threads are so pointless and loathing is summed up with the factthat this is the 14th one. When it fails once can't you just leave it, surely that isn't very market responsive.
    So, giving up on the first try is market responsive? That's a crazy view of capitalism. And if it isn't capitalistic, why don't you like it?

    And actually, this would be the third. I think the second is still buried in the depths somewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
    Who died and made you a moderator? Back off.
    Since when did not being a moderator stop people commenting?
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
    You're acting like any thread without your approval is some kind of "lesser" thread. It smacks of a disgusting arrogance.
    Not at all, just this one. If you want to talk with just conservatives there are plenty of outlets, why here? To think you can start up your own thread just for conservatives in an open to anyone forum and expect them not to take part in the thread, that smacks of a disgusting arrogance to me and many more things besides.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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    Liberals and hippies please be kind and stay out. Just start your own club. Thanks.
    So, as long as I have your permission it is OK and I can ignore DA's. Great!

    And we all know what this thread is about and it is nothing but pats on the back for fellow conservatives.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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