The changing face of TEXAS

[Strike For The South]

http://www.dallasfed.org/research/pu..._petersen.html

There was some intresting information in here not just about race and I found it to be an intresting read. Apprently by 2040 the entire state will look like San Antonio however I am more worried about the divide that may happen. As all Texans know south TEXAS is primarly hispanic and has been for quite some time while North Texas has been primaly Anglo. With many south Texans living in close proximty to the border and many still having ties to Mexico. The question is will this cuase a rift in the state or am I going insnae?

[GoreBag]

I doubt it. Most people immigrate with the intention of finding a better life on the other side of the green, right? The few who have intentions of shaping the socio-political climate will go largely unheard unless Texas suddenly becomes impoverished.

Anyway, I'm not bothered unless Texas stops making good metal.

[JAG]

Easy, kill all the immigrants, show them that great Texas hospitality, which you are so kindly showing places like Iraq and Afghanistan! :)

[Crazed Rabbit]

Easy, kill all the immigrants, show them that great Texas hospitality, which you are so kindly showing places like Iraq and Afghanistan! :)

Turn down your spout of socialismtm there, JAG.

You're registering a 'farcical' on the wild and wacky opinions-o-meter.

I guess the latest issue of Socialist Nutters must have come out against fighting the Taliban.

As for Texas, I'd be worried about importing poverty and indifference towards US culture with loads of immigrants.

Crazed Rabbit

[Perplexed]

US culture

Isn't that an amalgamation of European, Asian, and Hispanic influences in itself?

[JAG]

Isn't that an amalgamation of European, Asian, and Hispanic influences in itself?

No, the US culture is to tear each other apart in the search of wealth, silly!

[Perplexed]

No, the US culture is to tear each other apart in the search of wealth, silly!

Oh, I thought he was talking about the actual influences involved. But yeah, that pretty much sums up the good ol' American lifestyle.

[Al Khalifah]

I'm sure there's something wrong with as blanket a phrase as US Culture. It supposes that there is an all-pervading isotropic culture across the entire republic. Is Texan culture really like Alaskan culture, or that of New York or California?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Isn't that an amalgamation of European, Asian, and Hispanic influences in itself?

Indeed, and varies somewhat from state to state. But it is not any one of those by itself.

No, the US culture is to tear each other apart in the search of wealth, silly!

Which is why Americans donated 250,000,000,000 dollars to charity in 2004. Right.

Crazed Rabbit

[whyidie]

Indeed, and varies somewhat from state to state. But it is not any one of those by itself.


Which is why Americans donated 250,000,000,000 dollars to charity in 2004. Right.

Crazed Rabbit

USA! USA!

[KafirChobee]

Going insain? Sorry mate, you passed that line long a go - like when you admitted to being a Texan.

Seriously though, Texas was the hub for civil liberty at one time - when it lost that, it lost its center - it lost its soul. More Texans served in the Union Army, than the Cofederacy - small known fact, but true. Slavery was illegal in Texas.

[Redleg]

http://www.dallasfed.org/research/pu..._petersen.html

There was some intresting information in here not just about race and I found it to be an intresting read. Apprently by 2040 the entire state will look like San Antonio however I am more worried about the divide that may happen. As all Texans know south TEXAS is primarly hispanic and has been for quite some time while North Texas has been primaly Anglo. With many south Texans living in close proximty to the border and many still having ties to Mexico. The question is will this cuase a rift in the state or am I going insnae?

There are some things to worry about SFTS.

My primary concern is will the education system suffer because of the shifting of wealth out of the state of Texas. The recent tax bills and school legislation in the state congress has demonstrated the problem very well. Now its not just the Anglo wealth that is leaving the state, (I don't have any hard data, but on the surface its not much as of yet, but it will grow as the baby boomers age) but the wealth that the immigrants are sending out of the state back to their nation of orgin.

With legal immigrants this problem is not as terrible as it seems because they for the most part are contributing their share back into the state. They often pay not only the required income tax, but other taxes as well like property tax, which goes to pay into the school district coffers.

The issue of the illegal immigrants becomes not only of them - but the employers who use them because they are also cheating not only the Federal Government but the state as well. However their children must still be educated. It does absolutely no good not to educate the children because their parents are illegal, its absolutely sound to provide them an education but the state needs to figure a way to pay for it. Property taxes barely covers the cost of many districts, and in others don't even come close. There are districts with surplus cash that can contribute to other districts but all this requires is for the state to actually take an interest in the states eduction system other then the TAKS testing that happens.

The larger city school districts are hit the hardest by this particlur problem. One that I initially believed the state lottery system was suppose to help with. However I am not sure exactly how much the lottery is helping the state with its education requirements. When one begins to look at the population make-up and location of the density of the population - one will quickly conclude that the state education system is about to suffer a major break. School districts need to focus on educating children.

[KafirChobee]

Gah! Texas has the highest drop out rate in America - for minoritys.

Gah! Texas reform? What an oxymoron - Texas has always been of the rich and for the rich - look at who they elected Gov and President. Then look back and see how the oil dudes discredited a real Texan for GW to become Gov.

Other wise, anyone that looks at Texas and sighs ..... how great it could have been. Gah! It is Texas after all - and we all know the only things that come frome Texas are Steers and Queers. IMHO

[Redleg]

Gah! Texas has the highest drop out rate in America - for minoritys.

And have you ever wondered why?

There is some interesting information available if you know where to go to find it. Most of it will even point out that Texas has one of the highest drop out rates for whites also. (Makes one wonder what the state politicans are going to do about it, and for that matter the school boards for the independent districts are just as guilty). A lot of the small rural communities have little to no funding for thier school districts.

But when it comes to the mobile illegal immigrant population - the shame of Texas is indeed that the Hispanic community is often left out of the education equation not only by our politicans but also the community itself.

Gah! Texas reform? What an oxymoron - Texas has always been of the rich and for the rich - look at who they elected Gov and President. Then look back and see how the oil dudes discredited a real Texan for GW to become Gov.

The latest round in the School Tax Finance reform is rather interesting to read. Full of exactly this problem - hince the necessity to discuss the issue. But then again the state politicans are not neccessarily known for placing education and state legislative matters as a priority when they meet in session. Hell I can't even remember if they actually passed anything this session, it was all tied up in posturing by so many of them. Oh found it with a little search

Rather a pathic attempt at finance reform for education - lots of fluff, no meat. But makes for interesting eye candy for the un-informed.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....3f040f98.html

The law signed Wednesday by Gov. Rick Perry will:

• Reduce school property taxes by a third, to no more than $1 per $100 of property valuation. School districts could raise rates 4 cents this year for local programs.

• Ease "Robin Hood" requirements, letting wealthy districts keep more property tax revenue but also increase guaranteed state aid for lower-wealth school districts.

• Provide teachers a $2,000 pay raise, including restoration of a $500 health insurance stipend.

• Set the fourth Monday of August as the mandatory start date for classes, beginning in 2007.

• Create a new incentive pay program for teachers.

• Make students take four years of math and science to graduate.

Want to take a bet. I will even give you odds.

3 to 1 that the Texas dropout rate raises even higher during the school year 2007-2008.

Other wise, anyone that looks at Texas and sighs ..... how great it could have been. Gah! It is Texas after all - and we all know the only things that come frome Texas are Steers and Queers. IMHO

A rather old joke - there are better ones then that one. I have even heard this one applied to Florida on several occasions.

but then again I am not a Texas native either

[mercian billman]

Going insain? Sorry mate, you passed that line long a go - like when you admitted to being a Texan.

Seriously though, Texas was the hub for civil liberty at one time - when it lost that, it lost its center - it lost its soul. More Texans served in the Union Army, than the Cofederacy - small known fact, but true. Slavery was illegal in Texas.

IIRC slavery was illegal in Texas when it was part of Mexico, In 1823 slavery was officially abolished throughout Mexico, despite this slavery was practiced in Texas and continued to be practiced until the end of the Civil War.

[Aenlic]

IIRC slavery was illegal in Texas when it was part of Mexico, In 1823 slavery was officially abolished throughout Mexico, despite this slavery was practiced in Texas and continued to be practiced until the end of the Civil War.

Yes, in fact, one of the reasons (although not, perhaps, the primary reason) for the revolution of the Texans from Mexico was the issue of slavery. One of the "heroes" of the Alamo, William Barret Travis, was a staunch pro-slavery advocate, and some of the most radical groups which fomented the rebellion were very much pro-slavery. It wasn't just Travis, either. In a letter of August 21,1835, Stephen F. Austin said "Texas must be a slave country. It is no longer a matter of doubt."

After it gained independence, slavery in Texas increased dramatically.

[Big_John]

A rather old joke - there are better ones then that one. I have even heard this one applied to Florida on several occasions.

florida? wha?

is there a lot of cattle ranching in florida?

[Perplexed]

florida? wha?

is there a lot of cattle ranching in florida?

Alligator ranching is just as profitable, if not more so.

[Big_John]

Alligator ranching is just as profitable, if not more so.

ok, but are alligators called "steers", colloquially?

[Aenlic]

Steers are bulls which have been gelded. I'm not going to get close enough to an alligator to check the condition of that particular alligator part.

[Perplexed]

Alligator gelding is a state sport in Florida.

[solypsist]

this reply is neither constructive or conducive to discussion. so why say it? refrain from replies that could be construed as Trolling.

Easy, kill all the immigrants, show them that great Texas hospitality, which you are so kindly showing places like Iraq and Afghanistan! :)