Most Under/Over Rated RTW unit?

**Btothexicus Maximus** · 07-01-2006, 19:56

I confess gladly i don't play vanilla or anyvanilla promoting mods; I play the Dominus Mod for RTR. But i can still give my opinion.

Overrated:

Horse Archers:

They are good units yes but players talkf of using 100% HA armies. HA's, like msot light cavalry, cna be owned by heavy archer fire in return or even Legion Pila. The fact is HA's are pwoerful supplements but they are not the sturdy structure to build an army off of. Even if you do exploit the stupid AI with them its still no fun at all.

Underrated:

Falxmen. They have massive atatck and are extremely tough troops to go head t o head with. When i amde a brief foray into the good ol' Balkans Barbarians, the Flaxmen dominated the hard-hitting section of my army.

**Comrade Alexeo** · 07-01-2006, 22:02

Overrated: Praetorian/Urban Cohorts

I'm not saying these guys aren't good; I'm saying that in many cases they're just overkill. Early and regular Legionary Cohorts can do all the things they can, can be present in greater numbers because they come earlier and they're vastly cheaper, and take less time to make (2 turns as opposed to 1). They're nice if you can recruit and financially support them in bulk, but I'll take a full stack of Legionary's plus supporting troops instead of having a half-stack of Urbans plus supporting troops.

Underrated: Eastern Infantry and Gothic Cavalry

I'll admit that I'm partial to the way these units simply look. However, Eastern Infantry make superb garrison units because of their cheap cost and great numbers when you stack them in your square, where they won't rout. Routing is why most people don't, or even can't, use them, but the "Poor Morale" trait is not only unfair, but hardly accurate historically. Remove them, and suddenly they actually have value on the field (so long as used en masse, which is something I think most people don't understand about them). As for Gothic Cavalry - I never, ever see anyone talk about them in any context, which I find bizarre because they're simply awesome heavy cavalry. During my Germania campaign, I never bothered with Berserkers or Nightraiders (or whatever those things are called) when I was fighting Rome - give me some Chosen Archer Warbands and Gothic Cavalry over those guys any day.

**Btothexicus Maximus** · 07-01-2006, 22:11

Extremely valid point about those Eastern Infantry. In RTR as Mercs their mental stats are:

stat_mental 20, disciplined, highly_trained

And are steadfast troops. Great garrisons especially for infantry poor people like Parthia.

**Garvanko** · 07-01-2006, 22:35

Overrated? Pretorian Cohorts.

Underrated? Numidian Cavalry.

**Kralizec** · 07-02-2006, 18:43

Unlike with MTW, I can't really think of any units in RTW that are under- or overrated. Units in RTW usually are often either uber, total crap and are universally recognised as such. There's also units that are average like hastati or plain hoplites, but RTW sadly strikes me as a game that favours armies composed entirely out of elite units.

**kburkert** · 07-04-2006, 22:46

Over rated: Spartan Hoplites

Under Rated: Peasents

**Tyranus** · 07-06-2006, 02:44

Overated: Beserkers

Underated: Hastai

Urbans arent overated, they are one of if not the best unit in the game. Eastern infantry are archer fodder at best in RTW. Gothic cav cannot stand up to praetorian cav.

**IrishArmenian** · 07-06-2006, 05:14

Over rated: Triarii
Under rated: Eastern Spearmen (those phalanx soldeirs that Hayk gets)

**GeneralHankerchief** · 07-06-2006, 05:24

Over-rated: Chariots. Just a waste of space IMHO.

Under-rated: Onagers. These bad boys are absolutely critical in my high-tech armies when attacking, defending, or taking a city.