They just want to fit in, right.

[Fragony]

http://www.islamchannel.tv/forums/sh...&catID=6&mode=

Can I have some social exclusion with that please?

Well you anglo-saxons, how do feel about not being welcome on your own soil?

'unislamic enviroment' hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Dâriûsh]

"Your beard must be this long to enter"

[naut]

Whats it all about?

[Tribesman]

Well you anglo-saxons, how do feel about not being welcome on your own soil?

Do you have a problem with people block booking a venue , or is it only a problem if those people are of a religeon that you don't like .

Poor Fragony , it does seem as if you go out of your way to take offence .

"Your beard must be this long to enter"
classic

[Fragony]

Poor Fragony , it does seem as if you go out of your way to take offence .

It's obvious they don't like being around brits, social exclusion my derriere, they isolate themselves. Replace muslims with 'whites' and check the score on your offencomatic. We are all equal huh, some just a little bit more.

Of course you see it differently.

[Al Khalifah]

Why do this? It is blatant intollerance of another's culture. Not because they wish to block book the venue, but feel that going on a day where another culture is on display (the indigenous culture, mind) is not acceptable.

They are essentially only willing to go to this place on the proviso that it is completely transformed to suit their own preferences. That is intollerant.

[Tribesman]

Replace muslims with 'whites' and check the score on your offencomatic
Is there any provision to ban people from attending due to their creed or colour ?
Nope if it was whites only , Muslims only or only people with green skin then it would be offensive , but it isn't is it .
Of course you see it differently.
Yep , I don't give a damn what people want to do with their spare time .

They are essentially only willing to go to this place on the proviso that it is completely transformed to suit their own preferences. That is intollerant.
Nope they are exercising their rights as citizens, it wold be no different if a leather fetish group block booked the venue and said that anyone is welcome to attend as long as they wear leather .

[Al Khalifah]

They're not just posing restrictions on who can attend though. They are also enforcing changes to the actual venue itself. In other words - isolating themselves from the influence of other cultures and attitudes.

[Fragony]

Replace muslims with 'whites' and check the score on your offencomatic
Is there any provision to ban people from attending due to their creed or colour ?
Nope if it was whites only , Muslims only or only people with green skin then it would be offensive , but it isn't is it .

Ok that was a bit dumb.

But it's not about them hiring an atractionpark, it's about that they won't come unless there are no infidels. All the multicultists cry social exclusion, when it is obviously voluntary isolation. Conclusion, they don't want to fit in.

[Tribesman]

They are also enforcing changes to the actual venue itself. In other words - isolating themselves from the influence of other cultures and attitudes.
So what , they are paying for it , would you have a problem if it was Vegans doing it and they told the parks owners not to sell animal products on the day ?

They're not just posing restrictions on who can attend though.
There are two restrictions they are placing , do you know what they are ? apart from buying a ticket in the first place
Do you know how many restrictions the venue itself has on who can attend on any other day ?

[Al Khalifah]

For me it is summed up by the words:

Many of us including myself love theme parks but are put off by the unislamic environment

That my friend, is ISOLATIONISM. Because the culture is NOT Islamic, they do not wish to see it. Hence they are shielding themselves from a culture which is NOT their own.
If I said to you, I'd quite like to visit Saudi Arabia but I'm rather but off by the Islamic environment would you say that is wrong or right? Or rather, I don't want to go to Saudi Arabia because its an unchristian environment.

[King Ragnar]

*shudders* Sickening, if anyone who wasnt muslim did this, the muslims would go around beheading people because of it.

[Tribesman]

That my friend, is ISOLATIONISM. Because the culture is NOT Islamic, they do not wish to see it. Hence they are shielding themselves from a culture which is NOT their own.

So what ? Do you invite a Jehovahs witness' to a Chritmas celebration, do you invite a Muslim round to help you slaughter a pig ?

Many of us including myself love theme parks but are put off by the unislamic environment
So how would that be if it was...."many of us including myself love supermarkets , but are put off because they are not Kosher" ?
My god that's outrageous how dare they not fit in

But it's not about them hiring an atractionpark, it's about that they won't come unless there are no infidels.
Errrrr...it is about hiring a public venue , and has nothing to do with the presence of infidels , or are they hiring all new staff for the day ?

Conclusion, they don't want to fit in.
Conclusion , you have a problem with Muslims don't you

[Fragony]

Errrrr...it is about hiring a public venue , and has nothing to do with the presence of infidels , or are they hiring all new staff for the day ?

No it's not, and probably, but who knows, they just might tolerate a non-muslim staff.

Conclusion , you have a problem with Muslims don't you

Yup, and it's getting worse each day. It's of no use tolerating the intolerant.

[Tribesman]

No it's not
So this topic about a group block booking a public venue is not about a group block booking a public venue????????....rigggght


Yup, and it's getting worse each day. It's of no use tolerating the intolerant.
Hey I can tolerate you Frag , don't worry no need to put yourself down like that , leave that to me , I know its no use trying to enlighten your thought process , though that process does seem to get worse every day .

[Fragony]

So this topic about a group block booking a public venue is not about a group block booking a public venue????????....rigggght

Indeed, check title 'They just want to fit in, right.' It's about it's implications, a great word for scrabble I might add.

Hey I can tolerate you Frag , don't worry no need to put yourself down like that , leave that to me , I know its no use trying to enlighten your thought process , though that process does seem to get worse every day .

How nice of you, still you seem to be the only one disagreeing with me on this. So congrats, you got what you always wanted, finally a minority.

[rory_20_uk]

I don't like it.

But our society would be worse if there were laws to stop people doing it.

Their money, their rules.

I enjoy going to a Club in London. No women except in 2 rooms, code of behaviour, code of dress. No general public. It's as far from the masses as possible, and I love it.

[Husar]

So what , they are paying for it , would you have a problem if it was Vegans doing it and they told the parks owners not to sell animal products on the day ?

Yes, I would call them crazy.

I think excluding some people is always weird and excluding people because of their culture is just as weird and wrong as excluding people because of their race or colour IMO.

Would you mind if I booked the place and let only white supremacists in because I don´t like seeing all those of "lower" races?

[JAG]

Alton Towers is great fun - having been there just 6 weeks ago - hope they have a great time!

[Kralizec]

It migt just be me, but I didn't spot a beard requirement to enter. If they want a no pork/no beer themed day, it's their money

If there'd been a Hindu or a hannukah day, would this thread even have existed?

[Fragony]

If there'd been a Hindu or a hannukah day, would this thread even have existed?

No, because Hindu's and Hannukah (waht?) don't cause any troubles and thus have no need for multicultists that throw everything on us not accepting them.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I dislike this intensely, how does this sound:

I hire Alton Towers and I exclude anyone who is not a Christian by:

1: Requiring everyone to wear a cross and carry a rosary.

2: Its a Friday, so I only serve fish.

3: No swearing, taking the Lord's name in vain or mocking Christianity.

4: No Pagan symbols which will, btw, close half the rides.

Or how about I just go there and turn a blind eye to those things and enjoy myself.

(In point of fact I'm probably technically guilty of all of the above.)

I don't like the Hijab but I don't go tearing them off Muslim women's heads, do I?

This shows intollerance on a massive scale, about the only good point is the Halal food, which should always be provided, as should Kosha food.

Tollerance is about living with something without having to accept it, every other major religion manages. I can barely remember the last time a Jew, Sikh of Hindu complained about being persecuted, its just Muslims.

Its not even all Muslims but no one, including other Muslims speaks up.

[rory_20_uk]

This shows intollerance on a massive scale, about the only good point is the Halal food, which should always be provided, as should Kosha food.

What do you mean by "always"? Every restaurant? Every resort? If there's money to be made, people stock it. Else bring a lunch.

My friend is gluten intolerant. Should every place have gluten free food? She can't choose this condition, whereas Muslims and Jews choose t eact certain foods.

[IrishArmenian]

I do not see th big problem with this. They are just renting the park, so they there will be no alkohol, and Islamic-culture food. This doesn't mean that ONLY Muslims are allowed. I assume that a non-Islamic person would be let in to the park, as long as they heeded the Islamic rules.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Alton Towers is great fun - having been there just 6 weeks ago - hope they have a great time!

You don't mind the oppression of women, then? Something makes me think most will be wearing those burqas (or similar dress).

The problem with this is, as Fragony and others pointed out, isolation from the society they live in. It seems Tribesman cannot see the forest for the trees, and ignores the main problem here; these people want to exclude themselves from society. They don't want to integrate with all the other people in England. They are not happy, it seems, with a society that includes people of different religions, or does not follow their religious guidelines.

Crazed Rabbit

[Big_John]

wow.

can't spell it out any more simply than tribesman already has. but the fear and hatred being displayed here under a weak guise of concern for integration is astonishing.

just, wow.

[Reenk Roink]

You don't mind the oppression of women, then? Something makes me think most will be wearing those burqas (or similar dress).

Hmm...oppression...

Perhaps one should ask these women whether they wear it willingly out of religious observation or unwillingly?

[Fragony]

but the fear and hatred being displayed here under a weak guise of concern for integration is astonishing.

Concern of integration is not the issue, actually I prefer it that way. But I am not going to take blame for another person's blatantly obvious refusal, and I am certainly not happy about the millions and millions of euro's that are pumped into a lost cause, namely the integration of muslims into this big shiny cuddly fuzzy thing the completily foolish like to call multiculture. They don't want it, basta.

[LeftEyeNine]

Oh, thou, the members of the Org who have common sense, what's wrong with this ?

They pay for it, they book it and thus making arrangements to their wishes. Whoever is obliged from outside? If you want it, you'll pay for it and meet there. What's up with this?

Fragony, I know you are problemous with Muslims however I should also add that I'm sick of seeing every thread of yours compiled of such nonsense anti-Muslim propaganda.

[GoreBag]

Big deal. I attend gatherings like this all the time. People who aren't into death metal can come if they want to, but chances are, they won't have much fun. But hey, we pay to book the place, pay to bring the bands on stage, pay to get in, pay to buy beer, pay to buy merch...anyone who has a problem with that is just being an arsepick.