They just want to fit in, right.

[Fragony]

http://www.islamchannel.tv/forums/sh...&catID=6&mode=

Can I have some social exclusion with that please?

Well you anglo-saxons, how do feel about not being welcome on your own soil?

'unislamic enviroment' hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Dâriûsh]

"Your beard must be this long to enter"

[naut]

Whats it all about?

[Tribesman]

Well you anglo-saxons, how do feel about not being welcome on your own soil?

Do you have a problem with people block booking a venue , or is it only a problem if those people are of a religeon that you don't like .

Poor Fragony , it does seem as if you go out of your way to take offence .

"Your beard must be this long to enter"
classic

[Fragony]

Poor Fragony , it does seem as if you go out of your way to take offence .

It's obvious they don't like being around brits, social exclusion my derriere, they isolate themselves. Replace muslims with 'whites' and check the score on your offencomatic. We are all equal huh, some just a little bit more.

Of course you see it differently.

[Tribesman]

Replace muslims with 'whites' and check the score on your offencomatic
Is there any provision to ban people from attending due to their creed or colour ?
Nope if it was whites only , Muslims only or only people with green skin then it would be offensive , but it isn't is it .
Of course you see it differently.
Yep , I don't give a damn what people want to do with their spare time .

They are essentially only willing to go to this place on the proviso that it is completely transformed to suit their own preferences. That is intollerant.
Nope they are exercising their rights as citizens, it wold be no different if a leather fetish group block booked the venue and said that anyone is welcome to attend as long as they wear leather .

[Al Khalifah]

They're not just posing restrictions on who can attend though. They are also enforcing changes to the actual venue itself. In other words - isolating themselves from the influence of other cultures and attitudes.

[Fragony]

Replace muslims with 'whites' and check the score on your offencomatic
Is there any provision to ban people from attending due to their creed or colour ?
Nope if it was whites only , Muslims only or only people with green skin then it would be offensive , but it isn't is it .

Ok that was a bit dumb.

But it's not about them hiring an atractionpark, it's about that they won't come unless there are no infidels. All the multicultists cry social exclusion, when it is obviously voluntary isolation. Conclusion, they don't want to fit in.

[Al Khalifah]

Why do this? It is blatant intollerance of another's culture. Not because they wish to block book the venue, but feel that going on a day where another culture is on display (the indigenous culture, mind) is not acceptable.

They are essentially only willing to go to this place on the proviso that it is completely transformed to suit their own preferences. That is intollerant.

[Husar]

Hmm, I rethought about the issue and have to say there are two passages that bothered me, maybe I misunderstood:

1. "All childrens' areas will be limited to sisters only." What exactly does that mean, who is meant with "sisters"? Muslim women? or small girls who have a brother?

2. "Many of us including myself love theme parks but are put off by the unislamic environment, now's your chance to experience the thrills of the park in a halal environment inshaAllah!" I may have overreacted, but it sounds a bit like our culture is not good enough for them, like they feel their culture was superior. And because I think we are all the same, that hurt me. But as I said, maybe I misunderstood.

Apart from that I have no problems, I only dislike turks.

[Kralizec]

Hmm, I rethought about the issue and have to say there are two passages that bothered me, maybe I misunderstood:

1. "All childrens' areas will be limited to sisters only." What exactly does that mean, who is meant with "sisters"? Muslim women? or small girls who have a brother?

Yeah I was wondering what that meant too. I guess they mean little girls.

[LeftEyeNine]

No, "sisters" mean here the way they use the "brother" for. I don't know about the Arabic concept for it but in Turkish the seperation of women from men in a gathering (only religiously oriented) is called "haremlik - selamlık". That means the women will reside in children's areas while the gathering takes place.

2. "Many of us including myself love theme parks but are put off by the unislamic environment, now's your chance to experience the thrills of the park in a halal environment inshaAllah!" I may have overreacted, but it sounds a bit like our culture is not good enough for them, like they feel their culture was superior. And because I think we are all the same, that hurt me. But as I said, maybe I misunderstood.

The claim of cultural superiority is nothing new nor one-sided

Apart from that I have no problems, I only dislike turks.

But I adore you, Nuss (I miss the chat sessions, gah..)

But seriously, everyone has the right to like/dislike. My regards, I think myself as a German and sometimes I'd simply get frustrated with Turkish populace over there.

[Husar]

The claim of cultural superiority is nothing new nor one-sided

But wrong nonetheless.

But I adore you, Nuss (I miss the chat sessions, gah..)

I love you, too, Wuss.

But seriously, everyone has the right to like/dislike. My regards, I think myself as a German and sometimes I'd simply get frustrated with Turkish populace over there.

Some of them are probably weird, but I haven´t had any problems so far and my neighborhood has quite a few turks. Besides, one of my best friends here is of turkish origin.

[Papewaio]

So its a private venue as they have booked it all out. But some are annoyed that they will theme it in a non-multicultural way.

So should the Opera theaters which are so staid with their traditions be forced to play Kylie to make them more acceptable to the masses?

Should we drain half our swimming pools so that skateboarders don't feel threatened when going to an aquatic center as their chosen hobby is not generally looked out for?

Should we put gambling dens and pubs in every Church so that a wider swath of society is represented?

Should we get incensed that our local Indian restaurants don't serve steak'n'kidney pies?

[Crazed Rabbit]

I think they might mean all muslim women. Reading that thread, some of them refer to each others as 'sisters'.

The saddest thing about this thread is that those who denounce muslims for not 'integrating' and 'getting involved in society', probably have not a single muslim friend amongst them. You are so scared about these evil people, maybe you should actually get involved yourself and meet these people, who you continually decry for being so different and dangerous.

I was wondering when the tired accusations of fear and hate would come up. I guess we know now. After all, it's easier to just accuse than actually debate.

Thats strange Rabbit , I thought you were in favour of people like that .
Or is it only people like that if they have lots of guns and live in a compound ?

Sounds like you need some reading analysis skills.

LEN, I'm not against them booking this so much as their reasons for doing so.
All these people bringing up comparisons to vegetarians, etc., don't realize that vegetarians don't try to exclude themselves from the rest of society.

Crazed Rabbit