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    Default Re: New unit - Venetian Heavy Infantry

    What weapon is held by soldier? The crowbill or the fighting pick or the war hammer?
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    Default Re: New unit - Venetian Heavy Infantry

    War Hammer I believe.

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    I can't really tell work computer no likey flash. It copuld be a warhammer, and it could be a pick, it could be both . But it's definatly only 1 handed.
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    Default Re: New unit - Venetian Heavy Infantry

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
    What weapon is held by soldier? The crowbill or the fighting pick or the war hammer?
    Since the text says they have war hammers I think it is a war hammer

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    Default Re: New unit - Venetian Heavy Infantry

    Nice

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    Wow, looks nice. I like it!

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    Oo, me likey. He's not wearing purple armour, that's a plus. I really like the new approach CA Australia has been taking towards the units, namely more realistic looking. Good stuff.

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    Default Re: New unit - Venetian Heavy Infantry

    Quote Originally Posted by A.Saturnus
    Since the text says they have war hammers I think it is a war hammer
    I didn't see that.
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    It's interesting how CA thinks blunt objects like hammers and maces are armor piercing. Axes too were best used against lightly armored troops because the large cutting area spread out the force of impact (but cut more flesh!). Picks, polearms, and lances should get the AP bonus, the others should either result in a bonus vs. unarmored troops or a higher attack value. That’s why I love modding!


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    Default Re: New unit - Venetian Heavy Infantry

    looks nice
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    I love the look of this unit, nothing fancy, no hideous colours, just the plain armour and a dark shaded shield.

    Thats what medieval soldiers looked like!
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    "It's interesting how CA thinks blunt objects like hammers and maces are armor piercing."

    Well actually bashing someone in plate armour with a big spike on a big weight at the end of a big pole was much more effective than trying to stab or slash at them with a sword. If you look at the war hammer in question you will notice it has such a spike. Also, even a large blunt weight alone was more likely to collapse armour, or concuss the wearer, or knock them over. There is nothing at all wrong with making weapons like hammers and maces more effective against armour. They were largely used for that reason.

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    I think blunt weapons were more popular among knights for their increased ability to knock other mounted combatants off their horses; that and the ability to bash footmen about the head and neck. This may sound like a purist rant but at least in that example it seems that the weapon would be unbalanced if the spike was used. I'm all for the more "modern" polearms acting like can openers but very picky about the smaller weapons. If the smaller ones are to be armor piercing their attack value should be lower.

    The mace and hammer are far easier to forge than a sword. If they developed in response to better armor they would have replaced the sword. What happened was that the sword itself changed form. Compare a gladius or older broadsword to a later one like Prince Edward’s. The blade focuses more on piercing than slashing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
    What weapon is held by soldier? The crowbill or the fighting pick or the war hammer?
    OK I'm home now and it's a warhammer, long shafted though.

    Here's the description.
    Well armoured, and equipped with a war hammer, these men were recruited to protect the far flung interests of the Venetian empire from greedy enemies, on both at sea and land. Their long hafted war hammers are designed to penetrate armour making this heavy infantry unit a good choice for tackling armoured opponents.
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