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    You often hear Nazi German Fanatic say "Adolf Hittler Is still alive" and many other people say he has a son which lives in Brazil. Wonder my that is.
    Another curios thing. Why did he drank poison and the shot himself that same second?
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    I do not think the Nazi fanatic is automatically German, but I have heard that Hitler had a son, I also heard he was gay. Anyway, I think it is a terrible pun, but his shooting and poisoning himself was "overkill". But then again, I know for a fact he was mentally unhinged.
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    Triple Post.
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    Just to make sure that he died, I guess.

    I find it highly unlikely that someone that the Russians would hate so much, due to the immensely high casualties the Soviets suffered, would somehow manage to escape from Berlin when it was being attacked.
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    I sincerely doubt that Hitler got away, after all the Soviets found his body. By the way, he did not really shoot himself, I remeber that he poisoned himself, but not shot himself.

    As to the Hitler's body thing, the NKVD found the bodies of Hitler, Eva Braun, and that other family which commited suicide (I can't remember the names at the moment). Anyways, all the bodies were loaded into ammo crates, and taken to a Russian military base in Eastern Berlin, buried under a hangar, and then had concrete poured over the site.

    Eventually, during the Cold War, the KGB got around to unearthing the bodies again, then cremated them, and scattered the ashes to the winds. What prompted them to do that, I don't know, probably just wanted to make sure that the bodies were never discovered, and that their burial place becomes a gathering point for all right-wing nut-cases.

    EDIT: Grammar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keba

    As to the Hitler's body thing, the NKVD found the bodies of Hitler, Eva Braun, and that other family which commited suicide (I can't remember the names at the moment). Anyways, all the bodies were loaded into ammo crates, and taken to a Russian military base in Eastern Berlin, buried under a hangar, and then had concrete poured over the site.
    My best guess would be that family you mean was the Goebbels family, who committed suicide a day after Hitler did.

    And as far as I know, he didn't have a son. We'd surely know had he had one I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
    My best guess would be that family you mean was the Goebbels family, who committed suicide a day after Hitler did.
    That's them, I usually confuse the last name with Goering, so I rather stayed silent.

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    I tough he blew himself up with a bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murfios
    You often hear Natsi German Fanatic say "Adolf Hittler Is still alive" and many other people say he has a son which lives in Brazil. Wonder my that is.
    Another curios thing. Why did he drank poison and the shot himself that same second?
    The son in Brazil myth probably comes from the movie "The Boys from Brazil".
    IIRC the story is that Dr. Mengele, a mad German doctor who performed horrorible experiments in WW2 and a bunch of othe nazis who've gone in hiding in Brazil have placed Hitler clones around the whole world, in the hopes that one of them will start the Fourth Reich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    I find it highly unlikely that someone that the Russians would hate so much, due to the immensely high casualties the Soviets suffered, would somehow manage to escape from Berlin when it was being attacked.
    While ago, I saw a document about racism in russia. It was quite strange to see russian youths claiming that they are aryans, who should destroy all another races. They use the same ceremonies, which their forefathers tried to wipe out, to salute their forefathers.

    I realised there is something terrible wrong in Russia.

    Edit: Hail? What I was thinking. I mean salute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kääpäkorven Konsuli
    While ago, I saw a document about racism in russia. It was quite strange to see russian youths claiming that they are aryans, who should destroy all another races. They use the same ceremonies, which their forefathers tried to wipe out, to hail their forefathers.

    I realised there is something terrible wrong in Russia.
    It is a common event. When a totalitarian regime comes into power, the previous totalitarian regime is actually considered better, as humans have a habit of idealising the past. Thus, we have youths (and some older people) looking at the better old days when a different totalitarian regime was powerful.

    It is an event seen all over the place, and it is a trait of democracies which had only recently emerged, as people have the right to say their minds, at long last, and that which was so strictly forbidden is forbidden no longer, meaning that people can openly indulge in such things.

    But, yeah, it's scary, and not just Russia, all over the Balkans as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murfios
    You often hear Natsi German Fanatic say "Adolf Hittler Is still alive" and many other people say he has a son which lives in Brazil. Wonder my that is.
    Another curios thing. Why did he drank poison and the shot himself that same second?
    That's as bad as the Irish woman who took two pills "to be sure to be sure"

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    Hitler had heard stories of other generals shooting themselves in the head but not dying. He wanted to make sure he died, so he took cyanide and shot himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keba
    I sincerely doubt that Hitler got away, after all the Soviets found his body. By the way, he did not really shoot himself, I remeber that he poisoned himself, but not shot himself.

    As to the Hitler's body thing, the NKVD found the bodies of Hitler, Eva Braun, and that other family which commited suicide (I can't remember the names at the moment). Anyways, all the bodies were loaded into ammo crates, and taken to a Russian military base in Eastern Berlin, buried under a hangar, and then had concrete poured over the site.

    Eventually, during the Cold War, the KGB got around to unearthing the bodies again, then cremated them, and scattered the ashes to the winds. What prompted them to do that, I don't know, probably just wanted to make sure that the bodies were never discovered, and that their burial place becomes a gathering point for all right-wing nut-cases.

    EDIT: Grammar.
    According to the official records of Russia that's not what happened. Stalin wanted to make sure Hitler was dead. So he sent the NKVD to find his corpse and indentify it. They claimed they did. And sent back photos and some pieces of the body to back it up. Then cremated the rest. Stalin had one piece of the body kept. The top of Hitlers skull with the bullet exit hole in it
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573
    According to the official records of Russia that's not what happened. Stalin wanted to make sure Hitler was dead. So he sent the NKVD to find his corpse and indentify it. They claimed they did. And sent back photos and some pieces of the body to back it up. Then cremated the rest. Stalin had one piece of the body kept. The top of Hitlers skull with the bullet exit hole in it
    That piece is still in a museum, as I understand it, or at least, it was, as Hitler's head. The stuff I said is from the book Russia's War by Richard Overy (Penguin books, 1999), overall, a very good source.

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    Known family members:

    Alois Hitler Junior (1882-1956) half-brother of a.h.
    Angela Hammitsch (born Hitler, 1882-1949) half-sister of a.h.
    Paul Hitler (* 21. Januar 1896 Hafeld, † 1. Juni 1960 Berchtesgaden) Sister
    William Patrick Hitler (* 12. März 1911 in Liverpool; † November 1987 aka. «Little Willy» ) half-nephew & only remaining survivors of the family are:
    Alexander Adolf Hitler (* 1949), Louis Hitler (* 1951), Howard Hitler (* 1957, † 1989 bei einem Autounfall) und Brian Hitler (* 1965), none of them carries the name Hitler anymore
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    perhaps he did not wanted to kill himself, so he took the poison. After realicing he would surely die slowly he shot himself to avoid pain

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    Cyanide has a habit of killing near instantly, I believe. It takes a few seconds for it to kick in, then you're dead.

    The thing is, there's no body left to inspect, so we have to make do with propaganda and unconfirmed reports. Whether the skull in Moscow is really Hitler's or are Hitler' ashes scattered all over Europe ... there is no real way of knowing.

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    Howard Hitler...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subedei
    Known family members:
    Paul Hitler (* 21. Januar 1896 Hafeld, † 1. Juni 1960 Berchtesgaden) Sister
    I knew somthing was wrong with that family (the whole genocide and warmongering wasn't a clue to me apparently).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kääpäkorven Konsuli
    While ago, I saw a document about racism in russia. It was quite strange to see russian youths claiming that they are aryans, who should destroy all another races. They use the same ceremonies, which their forefathers tried to wipe out, to salute their forefathers.

    I realised there is something terrible wrong in Russia.

    Edit: Hail? What I was thinking. I mean salute.
    I can understand your disbelief in this.
    Why should russians who most likely have lots of familymembers who got killed by nazism actually be nazis.

    Well, the war on the Soviet Union was a twopronged ideological assault. Primarely it was the inevitable war between the east and the west (according to Hitler at least), a war on which ideology should rule the world. The second part was the belief that the 'eastern' peoples were inferior and should be ruled by aryans. This was particularly aimed at the slavs (and became an easy excuse for horrible actions alltogether).
    But Russia also hold a large population of mixed people, especially in the St. Petersburg-Moscow region. Those people can indeed claim at least partial Germanic origin, and it is most likely among them that those Russian Nazis are found.

    They obviously believe in the second part of the war, and the first part was due to the foolish actions of their predecessors, sort of a "they had it coming".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis
    I knew somthing was wrong with that family (the whole genocide and warmongering wasn't a clue to me apparently).

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    Sorry.... Maybe (s)he decided to change sexes to get rid of the heritage of freaking nasty mustage-pimpin´ bugger A. H..

    p.s.: could someone chage the title to "Nazi" plaese....i thought "NAtsi" was some kind of "Special units" threat...u know, "Natsis are really good against Cav, using their naphta spitting abilities, but they suck when it comes to climbing walls, as they burn the ladders, as soon as one of them sneezes." . That sort of thing....
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    Even if Hitler had a surviving son, would it matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
    Even if Hitler had a surviving son, would it matter?
    Hopefully not!!!! Maybe 4 some brainless idiots...or maybe he would turn out cool, one never knows. Just cause your dad is a moron, you don´t have 2 be one, righty?
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    No, I doubt it would make a difference. I saw an article a while ago about how a direct relation pf Hermann Goering was actually completely pro-jewish, he wants to live in Israel and has many Jewish friends.

    Unless Hitler's alleged son was actually exposed to all the ideological brainwashing there is no reason why he shouldn't become just another normal person. I doesn't have to be like father like son.

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    Of course the man wouldn't have to be like Hitler.

    He would be shaped by his surroundings. That means he COULD be like Hitler, just like everybody else.
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    Ironically, the birthplace of William Patrick Hitler in Liverpool was one of the last places to be destroyed by the Luftwaffe in the final raid on the city.
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    ...just a side note..

    It was expected that Hitler only had a very short time to live anyway, regardless of the failing war. He had syphilus, and it was starting to catch up to him.

    So..technically, wouldn't Eva Braun and all of Hitler's children, seeing as it's an std, also have syphilus then? (Er..unless you can't pass that on hereditarily, I know little about std's, other than I don't want one, and most of them kill you.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucjan
    So..technically, wouldn't Eva Braun and all of Hitler's children, seeing as it's an std, also have syphilus then?
    Hmmm. that presupposes that their marriage was consumate and involved sexual contact, which is in some doubt. Hitler's abilities/proclivities in that area have been questioned in several sources (which I'm too lazy to look up right now).
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    Yes, Hitler seems to have lacked the capacity in the later years at least (Speers memoires indicates that he had intimate contact with young women just around the time of him becoming Reichkansler).

    So I quite doubt the syphillis theory. However Parkinsons is very much possible, as is an addiction to various drugs (again Speer was quite suspicious as to what was going on with his doctor).
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