The new need for speed,
pic from Xbox version,
pic from Wii version,
Is it me or is the difference minimal, or is there a real difference at all? That little Wii may just be a pretty powerfull little baby....
The new need for speed,
pic from Xbox version,
pic from Wii version,
Is it me or is the difference minimal, or is there a real difference at all? That little Wii may just be a pretty powerfull little baby....
That's not a good screenshot for comparison. A few shots of those cars racing in daylight against a very elaborate cityscape background might provide a better comparison. The XB360 & PS3 are simply more technologically advanced than the Wii when it comes to 3D rendering and relevant technologies (pixel shading, surface mapping, etc.). If for example, Bethesda were to take its hit rpg Oblivion and attempt to bring it to the Wii the results would (visually speaking) extremely disappointing. The Wii simply doesn't have the CPU horsepower or the 3D feature set needed to run a game like that with all its bells and whistles turned on. When discussing the graphical merits of the latest consoles it comes down to advanced, cutting edge technology (XB360/PS3) versus state of the art, off the shelf components (Wii). The former will consistently allow for better looking games but the latter costs far less to manufacture (and can be sold at a far lower price). Not that the Wii is hopelessly outclassed, Nintendo seems to be placing a helluva lot of emphasis on its revolutionary controllers.
I think the driving forces behind the Wii realized that for most people, good graphics are good enough and one need not break the bank creating and manufacturing a state of the art console capable of displaying astounding graphics. Even if an age where style seemingly triumphs over substance good gameplay always seems to beat great eye candy. Take a look at the phenomenal success of World of Warcraft, a great looking game but positively primitive looking when compared to games like Prey or Oblivion. However 6 million subscribers paying $14+/month to play WoW online think those graphics are just fine.
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The Wii is more for innovation rather than graphics. Xbox360 wins that competition with ease.
The pictures you show are not in game screen shots.
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The thing is these days, advances in graphics don't seem to be as big as the old days when things went from simple blocks to cute animated cartoon sprites and then to 3D. For the most part, enhanced water reflection effects and some more realistic shadows don't make a great deal of difference when it comes to gameplay. If the games aren't up to scratch, then it won't matter which console has the best graphics per se, although the media and grubby marketers will no doubt argue otherwise. Obviously the XBox 360 and PS3 will be able to handle more detailed objects and environments, but unless the game sets out to exploit this, the graphics capabilities aren't that important. In the case for Need For Speed, providing both the Wii and 360 versions are well coded for the machine (and not dire ports with crappy framerates) then things like loading times and the controller will probably be as important as which version looks the nicest.
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they look the same.
Nope, take a look at the upper center part of the Wii picture, note the flat grass look ... I don't see that issue with the 360 trees.Originally Posted by The Spartan
Not that it matters to me at the least, I'm a PC kind of guy.
I think the PS3 has the most graphical potential- IF developers ever learn to take full advantage of the cell architecture.
However, these screenshots show me the, graphically, the Wii looks fantasic- even if it is the weakest of the systems.![]()
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Does it really matter?
Playing any game at 30Fps or more and you don't see everything in a single so screenshot, I played PGR3 yesterday at a friends, yes it did look good but when you get down to it, it just looks the same to me as any fast paced car racer on any previous system.
I mean come on, 'flat grass'? So when you speeding down a road, furiously concentrating on winning, you actually notice these things?
Kudos to Wii for actually not letting us all become obsessed with graphics I say.
Even the Cube had passable graphics when the game devs bothered: Metroid Prime and Rogue Squadron come to mind. It wouldn't have mattered if they had shinier versions on other systems, either: both games were awesome fun. The Revolution will do fine if the games themselves play well.
Man, I don't even care what the Wii version looks like, I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole.
Wanna know why? EA isn't incorporating the motion sensors in the Wii version.
What. The. Hell.
That's a nono for me as well.Originally Posted by Ab Urbe Condita
What games will that apply to? CoD3? Just play one of the other CoDs. They're not that different.![]()
The Wii doesn't support HD or surround sound. The Xbox360 does. Enough said about power.
I'll still probably get a Wii though.
The cube allready supported surround, and had way better sound then the ps2 and xbox, I doubt the Wii won't have it. About xbox360, I got one, and I am not impressed, Oblivion looks nice but that's it so far. To make it even worse, the bloody thing is broken, won't even boot. I returned it, and got it back even worse, now it doesn't do anything, at all. The bloody thing is also VERY noisy, but I hated playing on it anyway. I hope the ps3 is better.Originally Posted by BDC
I do want Halo 3 though, and I want it NOW.
Nope, the cube did not have surround sound nor does the Wii, both do/will use Dobly Pro-Logic II which in essence imitates surround sound from a 2.1 output.
Oh? I didn't know that, I always felt that the sound of the cube has a lot more oomph then the xbox and ps2.....Originally Posted by Bouchious
At the risk of splitting hairs, Pro-LogicII is 'surround sound'(look it up on dolby.com if you dont believe me). It seperates out 5 channels + a sub from left/right audio cables. Pro-LogicII may not be as high-quality(particularly in the low-end sound) as it's digital counterparts, but I still thought it sounded great (on my Bose 5.1 system) coming from my GC for games such as Eternal Darkness.Originally Posted by Bouchious
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Who cares about graphics? The Wii is going to pwn the X360 in terms of gameplay innovation, and will come close to it when it concerns graphics. Since the former is far more important than the latter that's a clear-cut win.
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Didn't have an optical out. Neither will the Wii.Originally Posted by Xiahou
Along with the lack of high definition I think it is a big mistake. Maybe now HD isn't so important, but in 4 years no one will buy a Wii simply because it will look so dire next to other consoles.
The GC did look stunning at points. Star Wars Rouge Leader comes to mind.
Well it's also a matter of games being released to the console and currently the coming games for 360 look just awesome. Just take a look at Mass Effect.Originally Posted by The Wizard
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It's also cheaper. Nintendo has never let me down yet, and I certainly don't think they'll start now.Originally Posted by The Wizard
I believe that is the one factor which will give Nintendo a serious boost in the console race this time around, especially if they have a slew of name brand games (i.e. Zelda) on the shelves upon release and in time for the Xmas shopping season.Originally Posted by evil_maniac from mars
The XB360 is much more expensive to manufacture than the original XB and is most likely sold at a much bigger loss per unit. The PS3 is the most advanced console ever made and Sony's foolish insistence on cramming it with state of the art technology and proprietary components will likely force them to sell it at enormous loss per unit, even with an already bloated price tag of $400!
Come this holiday season you can bet that despite any protests voiced by bratty youths parents will readily pass over a $400 XB360 or PS3 (price does not include required memory sticks and other components) and instead opt for a Wii that costs anywhere from $200 to 250. And given Nintendo's reputation and consumer base the Wiii is almost guaranteed to clean up in households that have children aged 14 and under.
Ouch...
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06...s_6128295.html
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For me, Nintendo can stop at the Gamecube as far as graphics are concerned. They're fine. I honestly have no idea why you would need to get any better than that.
I fear, however, that most of the morons, if you will excuse the term, who buy consoles simply because of their graphical power without paying consideration to any other factors except compelling advertising (and I'm sorry but Nintendo really do need to fire everyone in their marketing department) will go for the 360. Reasons for getting a Wii instead? Cheaper. Better games (From Nintendo and second-party developers, I mean). Innovation. Each one of these is far more important than the small difference in sound and graphics put together. If more people would only realise this, the 360 and the PS3 wouldn't stand a chance. I don't think PS3 stands a chance anyway... I mean, come on, $500 to make? They are gonna have to sort that out, and by the time they do and get it release it will be too late because everyone will already have a wii or a 360.
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It's worse than that- the link you found was from '05 while the actual price was announced at E3 '06....Originally Posted by Spino
link"Today we're pleased to announce the global PS3 launch details. We will make PS3 available via a two-configuration plan. One with a 60GB HD. And the other with a 20GB hard drive. Japan's date: Nov. 11. In Japan 59,800 Yen. The 60GB PS3 will have an open price which retailers will set. In North America [to launch Nov 17]: 20GB for $499, 60GB for $599. Europe has 20GB for 499 Euro, 60GB for 599 Euro."
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Originally Posted by Xiahou
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20GB for $499, 60GB for $599?!? Ye gods, a little bit more cash could get you a fully equipped PC with LCD monitor. No doubt the 60gig model will be recommended for playing the truly state of the art, graphic intensive titles.
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Enhanced graphics can be a good thing, the xbox360 isn't that spectacular, but the sharper graphics make it all very easy on the eyes. You will get none of these jagged edges which is really a plus, I must admit that I am starting to slowly fall in love with the thing. I don't think the Wii is intended to be a primary gaming system, it's a second console by nature to have along with the PS3 or xbox, hence the low price. I will be all over the little darling the day it's released, but I definatily don't want to miss out on Halo3 and Bioshock.Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
Pretty spectacular, new red steel screens.
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