Again...new screens

**Alien_Tortoise2345** · 07-14-2006, 09:31

The pikemen actually use their pikes with two hands now, and they don't seem to be in that ridiculous phalanx of RTW. I sure hope pikes have been revamped.

If there is a Swiss faction then it should be allowed form a phalanx as I understand Swiss halberdier's tactics were influenced by the phalanx and paved the way for the later phalanx-style pikeman tactics of the 16th and 17th centuries.

**Ignoramus** · 07-14-2006, 09:59

Look this is lamentable! Why is Caen there instead of Rouen? Along with the inclusion of Bucherest, not to mention the fact that they have included Nottingham as one of the three major English cities. Oh, why oh why, can't they read a historical atlas? This is not D-Day in World War 2.

**econ21** · 07-14-2006, 10:59

Originally Posted by Ignoramus

... not to mention the fact that they have included Nottingham as one of the three major English cities.

What's so wrong with Nottingham? I think they chose it because it is pretty much in the middle of the central province they have created. It was a significant medieval town and seem to have as good a claim as most others. The only clearly larger ones (Bristol, York and Norwich) are way off the centre of that middle province.

I wonder what the third major English city is?

**Duke John** · 07-14-2006, 11:07

Nottingham means Robin Hood. Robin Hood means Middle Ages. Robin Hood is cool. Hence Nottingham means that M2:TW is a cool medieval game!

**B-Wing** · 07-14-2006, 21:51

He's right. CA is absolutely ruining M2TW with their city/province choices. I really don't think I can enjoy playing the game at all with Nottingham as the capital of an English province and freaking CAEN sitting across the coast. Its just too much! I dread seeing how they handle the Americas. I can't imagine how badly they intend to represent its major cities!

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**Perplexed** · 07-14-2006, 23:04

Originally Posted by econ21

I wonder what the third major English city is?

Wasn't it York in one of the screenshots?

EDIT: I wonder how easy it will be to place new cities in the game. Didn't CA say that every city had been hand-built this time? If so that means a LOT more work just to correct these silly mistakes.

(edited again for CA-bashing)

**Lord Adherbal** · 07-14-2006, 23:27

I dread seeing how they handle the Americas. I can't imagine how badly they intend to represent its major cities!

you think it's necessary to inform them New York wasn't such an important place at the time ?

**econ21** · 07-14-2006, 23:56

I've still no idea why people consider Nottingham a bad choice for the middle England medieval city. It was a significant walled town with a formiddable castle.

I notice Mediaeval Acturiso propose Leicester. But I doubt Leicester was a significantly larger town during the time period.

Let's face it choosing one town to represent 1/3 of England is always going to be an abstraction. Warwick would probably be equally as good as Nottingham or Leicester. But there was no salient middle England city (unlike Birmingham today).

If CA excluded London, then I would understand the outrage. But people are getting angry about excluding Leicester? Or what?