Quote Originally Posted by Orda Khan
Not quite. It was actually the Mongols who stopped themselves. Whereas it is easy to claim the Mamluks achieved this or that, it should not be forgotten that had the Golden Horde not fallen into dispute with the Ilkhanate; had they not supplied troops to the Mamluks; had Qaidu not begun hostilities against the Ilkhanate, history may well have painted a completely different picture. Considering that a large amount of Mamluk forces were defeated Qipchaqs who were sold as slaves to Egypt by Batu's conquering armies, without these other over riding factors the Mamluks would not have been successful.

As for the unit picture, it looks alright but IMO the new units are too small and dark

........Orda

Orda, shifty was talking about war, not political events. Who defeated the mongol horde at Ain Jalut, evenly?!! Who was the first army ever to defeat them?!! The mamluks. Yes Hulagu Khan left and took most of his forces away, and left some 25000 mongols and turks behind him. That shows that an even battle, where Saif ed Din Qutuz barely managed to gather an army, mostly of gazi volunteers, yet with a core of about 11000 mamluk proffesionals, was able to slaughter them at Ain Jalut.

The martial might of the mamluks was also evident in later battles, at destroying the remnants of Jerusalem, at Mansurah, where they slaughtered the French knights, and the Templars themselves, and captured their king, Louis IX.

I think that mamluks do deserve more than one flimsy unit in the game.