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    That´s sexual harassment!!!
    What if she wil become pregnant!?!?!?!?!


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    It's dominance behaviour. He overdoes the whole alpha-monkey thing imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho
    It's dominance behaviour. He overdoes the whole alpha-monkey thing imo.
    For once and probably the last time I agree.
    You just don't go around touching women or for that matter anyone without their consent, it's called common assault.
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    You just don't go around touching women or for that matter anyone without their consent, it's called common assault.


    You have to be joking?

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    No.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager


    You have to be joking?
    Put it this way, would you like any male just to come up behind you and rub your shoulders?
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    Sources, Louis? I'm curious...

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    Can you say non-issue?

    Oh, wait I mean...kill bushitlerburton! Gah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    Sources, Louis? I'm curious...
    I was referring to the Merkel/Bush incident, for which Ser Clegane provided a video earlier in this thread, and to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Put it this way, would you like any male just to come up behind you and rub your shoulders?
    Non-issue, for the groping/whatever itself...

    Pape: full-blown massage ? probably not a pat on the back ? no problem (regardless of my or his/her gender).

    I don't see a problem with touching a woman (or a man, for that matter), within reasonable limits, of course. If you touch their hand, shoulder, back - I think it's usually fine. Sexual harrassment and crap is just the usual PC junk, and I regard it as no more than junk. PC run amok. "Oooh, you touched me, I'll sue you for all your money, and you'll rot in jail for 10 years for sexual assault". Blech, utterly disgusting.
    Again, please note I did say "within reasonable limits".

    However, it is true that some people simply do not enjoy being touched, in any way, by strangers, or by other people in general. This should be kept in mind before one attempts to touch a stranger whose tastes/preferences/idiosyncracies in this matter one is not aware of.
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    Wouldn't you say this is being blown out of proportion?


    "he touched my shoulders, WAHHHHHH WAHHHHHH WAHAHAHAH"


    Don't be a cry baby over it. This just shows GWB is a down to earth and informal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    You just don't go around touching women or for that matter anyone without their consent, it's called common assault.



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    I'll join the Idaho crowd too. Bush' behaviour is entirely inappropriate.

    He eats and talks with his mouth open, uses profanities at G8 summits, and sexually harasses women. And the Chancellor of the worlds third largest ecomony at that.

    Just keep that hick at home and spare yourselves the embarrassment.


    GMAFB. Way to blow this entirely out of proportion. It was just a squeeze on the shoulders. Why does everytime a man touches a woman constitute sexual harassment? And I'm not a Bush lover by any means. I think the guy is a fool, but I don't see anything wrong with what he did here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowhead418





    GMAFB. Way to blow this entirely out of proportion. It was just a squeeze on the shoulders. Why does everytime a man touches a woman constitute sexual harassment? And I'm not a Bush lover by any means. I think the guy is a fool, but I don't see anything wrong with what he did here.
    I agree that its not a big deal, but there is something silly about it.

    Why does he think he can double clutch her shoulders in that setting ? Can you kick people in the groin too ? Because that would be cool.

    I have touched a woman like that in the workplace. Oooh. Great time for a spinoff thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whyidie
    I agree that its not a big deal, but there is something silly about it.

    Why does he think he can double clutch her shoulders in that setting ? Can you kick people in the groin too ? Because that would be cool.

    I have touched a woman like that in the workplace. Oooh. Great time for a spinoff thread.
    I agree that it is silly, and I have no idea why he did it, but I'm just trying to argue against those who think he is 'assaulting' or 'harassing' her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowhead418
    I agree that it is silly, and I have no idea why he did it, but I'm just trying to argue against those who think he is 'assaulting' or 'harassing' her.
    But then you'll be taking them seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho
    It's dominance behaviour. He overdoes the whole alpha-monkey thing imo.
    Actually the alpha would be the one getting groomed first not doing the grooming. So he is saying the Chancellor is higher up the chain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Actually the alpha would be the one getting groomed first not doing the grooming. So he is saying the Chancellor is higher up the chain...

    I certainly wouldnt claim assault, as the insane one suggested.

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    I guess I don't see what the big issue is, aside from being intrusive and highly informal for such a meeting to take place. As an American I'm not mortified that he would do such a thing, I'm just mortified that so many people thought he would be a good leader.

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    OK, Louis - watched the video. Well, we all knew Bush wasn't a diplomat.

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    He doesn't strike me as one either in this video on the G8. Besides the lack of table
    manners we're all well aware of, his other observations shown indicate something
    lacking.

    Amusing programme, though.
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    Considering this assault is insanity. By that standard most Italian men are commiting rape everytime they greet someone.

    The guy's an uncouth buffoon, leave it at that.

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    I agree with Proly and SSNeo.
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    Well, in the strictest legal sense, I believe that any unsolicited physical contact can be labeled "common assault," though I believe the assaulted party has to bring the complaint (Pindar, help us with this). In practice, I don't think this case would go very far....

    Inappropriate? Yes. Another example of GWB's spotty social graces? Indeed.

    Silly? Almost Ford-esque. Scandalous? Oh, please.....

    John Riggins mouthing off "Loosen up Sandy-baby" to Justice O'Connor before sliding under the dinner table drunk was worse.

    Bush 41 barfing during his presentation in Japan was more "off-putting."

    Reagan "outlawing Russia" was a more substantive gaffe.


    I'll bet GW can even tell the difference between a bidet and a commode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    Considering this assault is insanity. By that standard most Italian men are commiting rape everytime they greet someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whyidie
    Even if they are serious about it, it doesn't mean we should take them that way. Its silly. Charges should be brought against anyone, much less the President of a fairly reputable nation for a misguided shoulder grope ?

    Its like those crazy guys on the street proclaiming the end is near. Don't make eye contact and keep moving. But don't give them a second of your thoughts. Unless its laughing.
    My, what a classy respons of yours.

    You may agree or not, but groping women in a professional environment is, much like your posting style, very inapropriate and very offensive behaviour. Both befit only uncouth buffoons.
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    My brother in America emailed me that. The link was on som show, I'll pull up the email... The Daly Show? That is what it says in the email. But the US president has to brus up on his "moves". Yes? I hope that is not how you Americans woo a woman.

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    He was supposed to give her a "message", not a "massage".
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    Hmm ...

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    Looks like normal chimp grooming behaviour to me, what's the problem?

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    What can I say? Merkel's a babe.
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