The Constitution of the European Union

[cegorach]

[QUOTE=Louis VI the Fat]Ideally, that's exactly what I would want too. But I don't think we'll see enough support for that in at least the foreseeable future.

I'm not so sure if I want a closer union with mobster states like Bulgaria and Rumania, both set to join next year. Or with fundamentalist Catholic Poland, or with any of them fringe countries where the police refuses to protect gays from being beaten up in broad daylight.




Hey, hey, hey maybe give me an example of a gayman beeing beaten with the police not reacting to it ! The gay marches are protected by police against anti-gay protesters, but they are offending each other rather than attack ( I don't remember anything like this ) .

I don't like the current conservative government, but Poland isn't and never was fundamentalistic.




Here is a short description of the Polish politics

Left wing SLD and SDRP - have around 6-8 % of support,

Liberal-conservative (my choice) Civic Platform - has about 31 %

currently in power Law and Justice 28 %

their crappy allies

populists 5-6 %

LPR (nationalists) - 1-2 %

Since LaJ ( PiS) faces huge competition from CP it generally tries to dominate completely over their allies and blackmails them with the possibility of an earlier election ( populists and nationalists would most likely lose the elections, even disappear). PiS tries to get more votes from the most conservative part of the society, but it cannot go too far because they would lose more liberal minded.
In Poland church is separated from the state and catholic clergy do respect it, besides we are strong minded and do not like beeing 'advised' when voting that is why any party trying to show themselves as 'catholic' generally doesn't get too much support, sooner or later they all lose - there is no Christian Democratic party here after all.
Already they face heavy criticism in all areas and I hope they will lose the incoming local elections, their later defeat in 3 years will be much more striking I think and the Civic Platform will finally get the power. The current government embarasses us like Chirac France for example - if you need to know what kind of shame I mean.

Regards Cegorach