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    A few, days ago, it has been exactly 150 years since the birth of this great scientist. "A serb who indebted the world", " A man who invented the 20th century" are just a few descriptions people people use when they talk about Nikola Tesla. The scientific compound derived SI unit measuring magnetic flux density or magnetic induction (commonly known as the magnetic field B), the tesla, was named in his honor (at the Conférence Générale des Poids et Mesures, Paris, 1960). He is the only Slavic scientist, to this day, who ever got that kind of recognition.
    Some of his inventions are:
    Various devices that use rotating magnetic fields (1882)
    The Induction motor, rotary transformers, and "high" frequency alternators
    The Tesla coil, his magnifying transmitter, and other means for increasing the intensity of electrical oscillations (including condenser discharge transformations and the Tesla oscillator)
    Alternating current long-distance electrical transmission system (1888) and other methods and devices for power transmission
    Systems for wireless communication (prior art for the invention of radio) and radio frequency oscillators
    Robotics and the "AND" logic gate
    Electrotherapy Tesla currents
    Tesla impedance phenonomena
    Tesla effect and the Tesla electro static field
    Tesla principle
    Bifilar coil
    Telegeodynamics
    Tesla insulation
    Forms of commutators and methods of regulating third brushes
    Tesla turbines (eg., bladeless turbines) for water, steam, and gas
    Tesla pumps
    Tesla igniter
    Tesla compressor
    X-rays Tubes using the bremsstrahlung process
    Devices for ionized gases
    Devices for high field emission
    Devices for charged particle beams
    Arc light systems
    Methods for providing extremely low level of resistance to the passage of electrical current (predecessor to superconductivity)
    Voltage multiplication circuitry
    Devices for high voltage discharges
    Devices for lightning protection
    VTOL aircraft
    Dynamic theory of gravity
    Concepts for electric vehicles
    Polyphase systems

    Also, prior to his death, Tesla worked on a new type of weapon, called "death rays" or "peace rays". He believed that it would revolutionaze the warfare. Two days after he talked about this in an interview given to a magazine Liberty in 1935, he was contacted by a German viceconsul in New York. Tesla declined to meet him. He was in contact with Yugoslavia, USA, USSR and UK about this weapon. Although none of these countries actually contracted Tesla to build this weapon, he was under close surveillance of the great powers. After Germany invaded Yugoslavia, Tesla, in 1941, wrote to his nephew, Sava Kosanovic who was a member of the exiled yugoslav goverment that he had practically finished the weapon. Unfortunetaly (or fortunately), Tesla died in 1943 before finishing this project.

    The point of this thread is twofold:
    1. To pay respect to a great man and great scientist
    2. I would like to know if anybody knows more about this weapon he claimed he created.

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    I'm sure we've all heard of the Tesla Coil from Comman & Conquer: Red Alert...
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    Directed-energy weapon
    Later in life, Tesla made some remarkable claims concerning a "teleforce" weapon [24] The press called it a "peace ray" or death ray. [25] [26] In total, the components and methods included [27][28]:

    An apparatus for producing manifestations of energy in free air instead of in a high vacuum as in the past. This, according to Tesla in 1934, was accomplished.
    A mechanism for generating tremendous electrical force. This, according to Tesla, was also accomplished.
    A means of intensifying and amplifying the force developed by the second mechanism.
    A new method for producing a tremendous electrical repelling force. This would be the projector, or gun, of the invention.
    Tesla worked on plans for a directed-energy weapon between the early 1900s till the time of his death. In 1937, Tesla composed a treatise entitled "The Art of Projecting Concentrated Non-dispersive Energy through the Natural Media" concerning charged particle beam. [29] Tesla published the document in an attempt expound on the technical description of a "superweapon that would put an end to all war". This treatise of the particle beam is currently in the Nikola Tesla Museum archive in Belgrade. It described a open ended vacuum tube with a gas jet seal that allowed particles to exit, a method of charging particles to millions of volts, and a method of creating and directing nondispersive particle streams (through electrostatic repulsion). [30]

    Records of his indicate that it was based on a narrow stream of atomic clusters of liquid mercury or tungsten accelerated via high voltage (by means akin to his magnifying transformer). Tesla gave the following discription concerning the particle gun's operation:

    [The nozzel would] "send concentrated beams of particles through the free air, of such tremendous energy that they will bring down a fleet of 10,000 enemy airplanes at a distance of 200 miles from a defending nation's border and will cause armies to drop dead in their tracks". [31]
    The weapon could be used against ground based infantry or for antiaircraft purposes. [32] Tesla tried to interest the US War Department in the device. [33] He also offered this invention to European countries.[34] None of the governments purchased a contract to build the device. He was unable to act on his plans
    I found this on Wikipedia its interesting to say the least.
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    Well general he's one of the most important and most overlooked scientist in the modern age. Alos he was an idealist, beliving in the goo of the human kind and that people are good and that I think cause a bit of his downfall.

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    Definately one of the greatest scientist ever. Too bad Edison and Westinghouse screwed him over. He died a poor man despite his inventions which truly revolutionized the world. Sometimes I wonder what he's inventions (not the death ray) would have done if completed. I know he worked on energy plants that would electricize the ground and allow power to be tapped essentially from the ground. Too bad also that he was such a genius that he didn't really need to make notes, almost all he knew died with him.

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    A magnificent inventor/scientist indeed.
    maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Dimension
    Alos he was an idealist, beliving in the goo of the human kind and that people are good
    which is why he strove to create the death-ray!
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Not energising the ground. Even if energised you still couldn't produce eletricity because you wont have the 0 for ele to flow to it. So you would still need cables to go back to power station.
    From what I know he worked on trensmision of electric energy. Basicly wireless powering of machines.

    The problem with the lack of the notes is if I remember correctly is that he rarely made any real experiments where he would see if his idea would start working. All the thinking he would do in his head and then conduce an experiment which would in majority of attempts succed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_John
    which is why he strove to create the death-ray!
    I think that he sought to create a weapon which would make any attack doomed to fail. Waging war would become impossible with a weapon like that. That is way he (and many others) called that weapon "peace ray". It would probably be impossible, even with his best intentions. If a weapon of such power was created, how long would it be before some other scientist modifies it for attack. But he did have best intentions, and he was against the war.

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    The most awesome thing I think is that he basically invented the whole AC power system overnight, went home one night with an Idea & came back to Edison the next with circuit diagrams for pretty much the entire system (needed to be the whole system or else it would not have been adapted since it is incompatible with DC)

    He did die a poor man & did get screwed over on patent fees but he also did earn a lot of money & live an excessive, luxurious lifestyle for a lot of that life too.
    maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian

    The point of this thread is twofold:
    1. To pay respect to a great man and great scientist
    2. I would like to know if anybody knows more about this weapon he claimed he created.
    This is off topic. We finally saw last week that Croatian state recognised Tesla as Serb in celebration in Smiljane village.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
    This is off topic. We finally saw last week that Croatian state recognised Tesla as Serb in celebration in Smiljane village.
    It's so not like them. Probably they had to because their current goverment is in coalition with the Serm minority party. So they had to do it, to stay in power.
    And they probably didn't like it at all.

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    His nationality is not the topic of this thread

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    Well, he was actually an IstroRomanian ( Nicolae Tesla). IstroRomanians are curently living in Croatia.He wasn't serb...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
    Well, he was actually an IstroRomanian ( Nicolae Tesla). IstroRomanians are curently living in Croatia.He wasn't serb...
    Off Topc again...sorry for that
    Oh my God... And maybe if write his name Nicholas, then he will be english?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian
    Oh my God... And maybe if write his name Nicholas, then he will be english?
    And if I mention that his father was Serb ortodox priest, what will you say then?
    Yes it's offtopic.

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    This debate about Tesla's ancestry reminds me of NAZI Germany's attempt to "prove" Copernicus was German. Instead of discussing the man's ideas political opportunists are trying to score nationality points.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
    Well, he was actually an IstroRomanian ( Nicolae Tesla). IstroRomanians are curently living in Croatia.He wasn't serb...
    Off Topc again...sorry for that
    I hate discussions on national issues, but I have to agree with Cronos Impera here. We consider him a Romanian(we learn this at school, at the chemistry lessons, about Nicolae Tesla), you guys consider him Serb...

    IstroRomanian is a dialect of Romanian, so....
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    No he wrote in serbo-croatian.

    And on what sources do you base this claim?

    We know for certain that his father and mother were Serbs. We know that he gave all his stuff to Serbia by his will, and that's why his myseum is in Belgrade.
    All in all he was a Serb who was born in what is today Croatia. And if we would ask him he would probably sa he was a Yugoslavian, because that 'nationality of all southern Slavs' was popular among that times S Slavic intelectuals.
    But yeah we shouldn't discus his nationality, but for someone to claim he was a Romanian!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by edyzmedieval
    I hate discussions on national issues, but I have to agree with Cronos Impera here. We consider him a Romanian(we learn this at school, at the chemistry lessons, about Nicolae Tesla), you guys consider him Serb...

    IstroRomanian is a dialect of Romanian, so....
    This is the first time I hear about this. Nikola Tesla, an Istroromanian???

    But again, his nationality is not the topic of this thread. Discuss his achievements, his ideas, his work etc... but NOT his nationality. If this is so important, start another thread were we will discuss his nationality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian
    This is the first time I hear about this. Nikola Tesla, an Istroromanian???

    But again, his nationality is not the topic of this thread. Discuss his achievements, his ideas, his work etc... but NOT his nationality. If this is so important, start another thread were we will discuss his nationality.
    Yeah, but where?
    IstroRomanians left their home country(Dacia) long time ago, and settled in Croatia/Serbia(the area around there)... You should see the clip about IstroRomanians on Discovery Channel(UNESCO and other stuff...). IstroRomanian is a dialect, and sounds like normal Romanian, but it has a bigger slavic influence.

    You say he's a Serb, we say he's a Romanian. Either way, he was of Romanian descent, but born and lived and worked in Serbia. Either way, every country learns at school about them. I, for example, learned that he was a great pioneer, and he was IstroRomanian. You guys also learn that he's a great pioneer, but he was Serb.

    No matter how we put it, he's of Romanian blood, but Serbian nationality.
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    His vilage was part of what used to be MIlitary borderlynds where Austro-Hungarians settled Serbs ater thy moved out of Otoman ocupied lands.

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    Well, I'm pretty damn sure that he was a 'human being'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Peasant
    Well, I'm pretty damn sure that he was a 'human being'.
    he wanted to create a death-ray!!! i wouldn't rule out martian origins..

    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_John
    he wanted to create a death-ray!!! i wouldn't rule out martian origins..

    Unfortunetaly, there aren't any martians here so we can't be sure. Who knows what they learn in school...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian
    Unfortunetaly, there aren't any martians here so we can't be sure.
    not that we know of..
    Who knows what they learn in school...
    i assume destroying the earth or at least all human life is a core of all martian curricula. i will continue to assume so until martian benevolence is proven to my satisfaction.


    ahem, back on topic.
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian
    Unfortunetaly, there aren't any martians here so we can't be sure. Who knows what they learn in school...
    Maybe there are 'Sar-Martians'.

    Sorry. I'll get my coat.

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