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I have no opinion, just curious as to your opinion.![]()
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072200643.html
Please read the article and post your comments.
RIP Tosa
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Mods, if you ban him now he will become more powerfull then you will ever imagine!
on topic, anti war crowd picks strange allies.
The ACLU does it again. Just when I thought they couldn't go any farther.![]()
Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pintenOriginally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Down with dried flowers!
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
My comments posted in thread #2 on this theme still hold.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Free speech is for everyone it dosent matter if you agree or disagree.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Testing the extend of free speech is what the ACLU does. This is perfectly reasonable behaviour from the point of ACLU. They're not concerned with the content of those whose freedom they protect.
Personally, I would blow Fred's brains out if he showed up at a funeral of one of my beloved.
Just shows that if you're extremist and offensive, the ACLU will probably support you. Now if you're a HS student who makes the mistake of trying to thank God in your graduation speech (tried because mic was cut), dont expect any help- they'll side with the school.Originally Posted by Vladimir
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"Don't believe everything you read online."
-Abraham Lincoln
Why is it necessary for you to post the same thread 3 times on this forum?Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
You should have lots of comments to your questions in your other thread.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=67273
Could it possibly be that the ACLU will do whatever gets the most media attention?Originally Posted by Xiahou
The other two were deemed inflammatory. I guess Dave feels the issue is interesting enough to merit a third attempt with no opinion given.Why is it necessary for you to post the same thread 3 times on this forum?
Its not that hard to figure out..
Important questions for the consitutionality issue:
Is free speech being repressed?
They are not being censored - the state is merely limiting where they can say it.
Are they discriminating in which groups are affected by this?
No, this affects all picketers and protesters equal, no matter their message.
So, then, does restricting people from protesting at a certain location and time violate the constitution?
I do not think so. Precedence would seem to uphold this law. See the 'free speech zone' at the democratic national convention '04.
Fundamentally, their right to free speech is not being taken away. They can protest at cemetaries, just not a certain times. They can protest in the same town at the same time of the funeral.
I would be tempted towards violence if they showed up at the funeral of someone I knew.
Crazed Rabbit
PS. I wished the ACLU defended the whole bill of rights with equal vigor. But I guess NAMBLA takes up a lot of their time.
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
I like my freedom black with no sugar or creme!
Thank goodness for the ACLU!
The priest is a religious zealot moron.
Personally, I feel limitng where speech can be said is violating free speech, but its one I've come to accept along with others.
This is where idling gets us. For what, 8 or 9 years now, this guy has been terrorizing American families mourning their deceased, but no one paid attention when it was just dead gay people. Pretty fekking shallow, can't stick up for them, right?
The ACLU is at least consistent in testing the limits of free speech by picking people who are either seriously being censored OR people spouting highly unpopular views. They don't really go after every nickel and dime case of prayer at the graduation or people being thrown off the bus for wearing a t-shirt that shows Bsuh sodomizing tony Blair.
As much as you guys hate to admit it, we need organizations like the ACLU, just like we need organizations like the NRA and the SPJ.
I've made my opinion of Phelps clear in other threads. His cronies show up at a funeral I'm attending their brains will be getting scraped off the pavementand theres not a jury in the country that will convict me. There are some things you don't do in America, and disrupting funerals with hateful, scathing, obscene signs is at the top of the list.
Putting these people into a "free speech zone" and limitng where they can say it is something I advocate, but hey, maybe it is unconstitutional. It doens't help this church does suprise attacks on ceremonies. I wish all of those people horrible, horrible fates.
Baby Quit Your Cryin' Put Your Clown Britches On!!!
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