Westboro Baptist Church recieves assistance from the ACLU

**Devastatin Dave** · 07-24-2006, 15:07

I have no opinion, just curious as to your opinion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072200643.html
Please read the article and post your comments.

**Fragony** · 07-24-2006, 15:11

uh oh, see you in two days

Mods, if you ban him now he will become more powerfull then you will ever imagine!

on topic, anti war crowd picks strange allies.

**Vladimir** · 07-24-2006, 15:33

The ACLU does it again. Just when I thought they couldn't go any farther.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 07-24-2006, 16:11

My comments posted in thread #2 on this theme still hold.

**Strike For The South** · 07-24-2006, 17:35

Free speech is for everyone it dosent matter if you agree or disagree.

**Louis VI the Fat** · 07-24-2006, 18:24

Testing the extend of free speech is what the ACLU does. This is perfectly reasonable behaviour from the point of ACLU. They're not concerned with the content of those whose freedom they protect.

Personally, I would blow Fred's brains out if he showed up at a funeral of one of my beloved.

**Xiahou** · 07-24-2006, 22:02

Originally Posted by Vladimir

The ACLU does it again. Just when I thought they couldn't go any farther.

Just shows that if you're extremist and offensive, the ACLU will probably support you. Now if you're a HS student who makes the mistake of trying to thank God in your graduation speech (tried because mic was cut), dont expect any help- they'll side with the school.

**orangat** · 07-24-2006, 22:10

Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

I have no opinion, just curious as to your opinion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072200643.html
Please read the article and post your comments.

Why is it necessary for you to post the same thread 3 times on this forum?

You should have lots of comments to your questions in your other thread.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=67273

**A.Saturnus** · 07-24-2006, 22:11

Originally Posted by Xiahou

Just shows that if you're extremist and offensive, the ACLU will probably support you. Now if you're a HS student who makes the mistake of trying to thank God in your graduation speech (tried because mic was cut), dont expect any help- they'll side with the school.

Could it possibly be that the ACLU will do whatever gets the most media attention?

**PanzerJaeger** · 07-24-2006, 22:15

Why is it necessary for you to post the same thread 3 times on this forum?

The other two were deemed inflammatory. I guess Dave feels the issue is interesting enough to merit a third attempt with no opinion given.

Its not that hard to figure out..

**Crazed Rabbit** · 07-25-2006, 00:27

Important questions for the consitutionality issue:
Is free speech being repressed?
They are not being censored - the state is merely limiting where they can say it.
Are they discriminating in which groups are affected by this?
No, this affects all picketers and protesters equal, no matter their message.
So, then, does restricting people from protesting at a certain location and time violate the constitution?
I do not think so. Precedence would seem to uphold this law. See the 'free speech zone' at the democratic national convention '04.

Fundamentally, their right to free speech is not being taken away. They can protest at cemetaries, just not a certain times. They can protest in the same town at the same time of the funeral.

I would be tempted towards violence if they showed up at the funeral of someone I knew.

Crazed Rabbit
PS. I wished the ACLU defended the whole bill of rights with equal vigor. But I guess NAMBLA takes up a lot of their time.

**whyidie** · 07-29-2006, 18:44

I like my freedom black with no sugar or creme!

Thank goodness for the ACLU!

The priest is a religious zealot moron.

**Major Robert Dump** · 07-31-2006, 10:42

Personally, I feel limitng where speech can be said is violating free speech, but its one I've come to accept along with others.

This is where idling gets us. For what, 8 or 9 years now, this guy has been terrorizing American families mourning their deceased, but no one paid attention when it was just dead gay people. Pretty fekking shallow, can't stick up for them, right?

The ACLU is at least consistent in testing the limits of free speech by picking people who are either seriously being censored OR people spouting highly unpopular views. They don't really go after every nickel and dime case of prayer at the graduation or people being thrown off the bus for wearing a t-shirt that shows Bsuh sodomizing tony Blair.

As much as you guys hate to admit it, we need organizations like the ACLU, just like we need organizations like the NRA and the SPJ.

I've made my opinion of Phelps clear in other threads. His cronies show up at a funeral I'm attending their brains will be getting scraped off the pavementand theres not a jury in the country that will convict me. There are some things you don't do in America, and disrupting funerals with hateful, scathing, obscene signs is at the top of the list.

Putting these people into a "free speech zone" and limitng where they can say it is something I advocate, but hey, maybe it is unconstitutional. It doens't help this church does suprise attacks on ceremonies. I wish all of those people horrible, horrible fates.